Anxious time: More people want weapons
By CAROL ROBIDOUX
Union Leader Correspondent
Tuesday, Mar. 10, 2009
Uncertainty over President Obama's commitment to the Second Amendment or his stance on gun control has been feeding a frenzy among gun buyers who suspect the President may soon take steps to slow or stop the sale of semi-automatic weapons altogether, a Derry gun shop owner says.
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Look at history and see how Hitler came to hold ultimate power over the German people during the 1930's.
- Ned Kershaw, Colebrook, NH
We don't allow children to carry guns. We don't allow convicted felons to own guns. If you are arrested for domestic violence in NH all guns are removed from your home by the police until that matter is resolved.
I own guns and know many gun owners. I'm not sure if anyone I know thinks any of those restrictions listed above are unreasonable. Someone might me able to convince me but the thought of high school teenagers carrying concealed weapons in school seems dangerous at first glance.
The McCarthyism being exhibited by the far right (calling people commies? really?) makes more moderate members of the GOP outcasts. I am a self employed, gun carrying libertarian and the current incarnation of Republicans has me scratching my head. I am not the type of person they want to vote for them anymore.
- John R, Keene
I do support the Brady Bill. How does a background check strip you or any other law abiding citizen of your rights? If you have no criminal record and are able to buy a gun your rights have not been infringed.
If you actually read my previous posts you'll see that I am not advocating ADDITIONAL restrictions. My mention of "reasonable restrictions" was in response to your apparent position that there should be NO restrictions. Frankly, I'm happy with what's in place and I don't think the government should be wasting time on this issue.
I'll accept that I'm a "liberal" in your eyes. It seems that anyone who disagrees with you is a liberal commie. I used to be a Republican until the party was seized by the extremist right. Ironically, I became a liberal in response to the Republican party's clear intentions to restrict constitutional rights such as freedom of religion and speech. By the way, if you want to see examples infringement on constitutional rights try reviewing Bush/Cheney administration.
- Tim, Brookline, MA
- Dan, Bedford
Let me see...if I support ANY restrictions on who owns a gun I'm anti-Second Ammendment, is that right? If so, that means we shouldn't prohibit criminals and convicts from having them because that would constitute a restriction. I'll stick with reasonable laws that govern who can own a gun.
I own several guns myself -- even in the EVIL state of MA. If you were to go into the woods in MA in the fall you would meet many hunters, in fact I've found that the woods are a bit crowded sometimes. Before you condemn everyone in MA (as I was taught to do growing up in NH) as "commies and liberals" (oh yes -- foreigners, too) think about where the American Revolution began.
I will concede that gun ownership in MA requires much more effort than in NH, and that a concealed carry permit is pretty rare here. I have issues with how much control police chiefs have over the permitting process, but the bottom line is that if you have no criminal record and take a safety course you can buy a gun.
Finally, I read a previous post from you in which you pointed out that another poster was unenlightened because they don't like anyone who disagres with them. By calling me a communist (you called the other poster "comrade") and condemning me simply because I live in MA, you're showing that it's you who needs enlightenment.
- Tim, Brookline, MA
And its questionable how pro-gun you could be coming from Brookline, MA. You can't even get a concealed carry permit there. Everyone left in Brookline is a commie and a liberal. The typical anti-2nd amendment crowd.
- Dan, Bedford
Yes, I HAVE heard of Exeuctive Orders. The only thing the president can do with them is govern the actions of federal agencies with respect to existing law. He cannot establish a new law with an EO, nor can he change the constitution. This was established in 1952 by the SUPREME COURT -- heard of it?
I'm happy to stay in Mass, thank you.
- Tim, Brookline, MA
First, your theory on Habeas Corpus comes from where? The SCOTUS just recently restated that it does in fact apply to everyone. Specifically, wherever the US goes, the US Constitution goes with it. So, if I my mindless drivel is backed by the Supreme Court, what is your theory backed up with?
Second, show me which article of the Geneva Conventions allows, “these militants to be summarily executed”. What is the exact wording that allowed you to draw that conclusion?
Third, FISA was created in 1978, not in the 1990’s. Also, under that law they have to seek a warrant within 72 hours not 24. There is no provision that allows for a “practicable” amount of time. Thanks for making my point though. The President went outside of existing law and authorized warrantless wiretapping of Americans. No warrants. Not in 24 hours. Not in 72 hours. There is a reason they had to make amendments to the law after the fact.
Fourth, no one mentioned Sarah Palin. You made that up on your own.
Fifth, I went to private school.
Almost everything you wrote was ill informed and contained many factual errors that took no time to disprove. Address these errors you have made and explain your point of view after you know the falsehoods in your claims. I noticed you have nothing to say about my “leftist, Kos Kooks” stance on the 2nd amendment.
- John R, Keene
- James, Manchester
We're very certain about what Obama's socialist intentions are.
- Tom, Campton
*Hey Tim. Have you ever heard of an Executive Order? This guys signed more in his first fifty days than ANY president in history. Get a clue. It has nothing to do with paranoia. It has everthing to do with history and the cycle that governments go through. Every single government in history ALWAYS..ALWAYS ended up turning against its own people after they disarmed them. Do us all in NH a favor and stay in Mass.
- Greg Harris, Manchester NH
When my sister lived in Tennessee she was a gun control advocate. After she moved to Atlanta she got her firearms carry permit. Twice she faced assailants trying to break into her car when she was stopped at traffic lights. Both times she brandished her pistol and sent the assailants fleeing. Thank God she was prepared. Don, being prepared doesn’t equal being paranoid.
- willbill, Knoxville, TN
The intend of the 2nd amendment was to ensure that that citizens would never be in a position where they would be defenseless and subject to tyranny. With that in mind does it not make sense that the writers of the 2nd amendment wanted the civilians to have access to modern firearms to they could effectively defend themselves in times of crisis?
- Dan D, Bedford
those were military grade weapons at the time!
- George, Manchester
A few minutes for the police to get there? In lots of areas 15 minutes is a fast response time and usually it's far longer in rural areas. That's a long time to wait.
As far as training, most cops receive minimal training with their weapons and practice once a year if they're lucky, especially with budget cuts. The police are not the military, they're not known for their skill with their weapons, never have been.
- Art, Lancaster
- Mark, Amherst
Your argument is tired and asinine.
- Mike R., Bedford
....Sid why don't you read the the Federalist and Anti-Federalist papers. http://www.foundingfathers.info/federalistpapers/
The founding fathers put the second amendment in the Bill of Rights as a check on government power. It couldn't be any clearer what their intent was. Come back when you know what your talking about.
- Nestor Hernandez, manchester nh
I'm from NH originally and -- even during the height of cold war propaganda about the red hoards -- I don't remember this level of paranoid delusion.
Obama will not try to take away anyone's guns, even if he tried he'd get nowhere. Changing the constitution takes more than just a whim. Besides, Obama has a few more pressing issues to worry about at the moment than going through the countryside kicking in doors and taking people's guns away.
- Tim, Brookline, MA
- SID, PLANO TX
When seconds count the police are only minutes away. The average police officer shoots his weapon once a year. I shoot mine every week.
Todd
- Todd, Francestown
- Jack, Bradford
Hey Don...how many times has your house burned to the ground? I'm guessing zero. Do you have homeowners insurance? A fire extinguisher? Smoke Detectors? What... are you paranoid?
The current flurry of gun sales is a "stimulus/response" type of situation. Many who had been debating the ownership of a gun went out and bought fearing that they would not be able to do so one day. Others, including already existing gun owners, knew that an anti-gun President and a largely anti-gun, Democratically controlled Congress will likely push through legislation just like they did with the bail-outs. There was no debate and no politician even read what they signed their name to.
A study by economist John Lott found that a gun is used defensively many, many more times than reported. Not all incidents of defensive use of a gun involve the discharge of that gun. Sometimes the mere possession of the gun is enough to make a potential robber/rapist/etc reevalute their plans.
Criminals are a risk-averse crowd. They would much rather commit a crime against an unarmed victim. If a criminal doesn't know whether someone is armed or not, they will think twice. If they commit crimes in D.C. (where guns have been outlawed), they don't have to worry about being shot.
If you choose not to own a gun, I respect that. Why can't you or won't you respect my choice to exercise a Constitutionally protected right.
For those of you who are rabidly anti-gun, show us how much you believe in your position. Put a 4'x8' sign in front of your home stating "This is a gun-free home". I dare you...
- Jim Powers, Bedford
There are rarely any "good" gun stories. Most are sad and rarely talk of civilians protecting anything they own or love. Usually, the stories are just the opposite. Innocent people are killed, families destroyed and material posessions lost. Accidents involving guns add to the sadness and hurt.
I love my freedoms, but sometimes we need to think of the larger picture of civilized life in a complex and sometimes unfare world. Some freedoms are worth the sacrifice of not having a gun to protect myself from unnamed enemies.
Most crimes involve people who know each other. How sad. Consider, which person you know, that should receive the instant judgement, from the firearm you own.
- Dave D, Nashua, NH
>Why don't more people support the entire >Constitution? Warrantless tapping of >Americans and Habeas Corpus are clearly >covered in the US Constitution but where >were all these people I read here when >that destruction of liberty took place >under Bush 43.
>Habeas Corpus gets nothing? What good >will your guns do when they snatch you >up and deem you a subversive with no >ability to defend yourself? Get a clue >people.
What mindless drivel...habeas corpus is a right etended to US citizens, not militants fighting on the battle field OUT OF UNIFORM!!! According to the Geneva Conventions, these militants are supposed to be summarily executed....much less given constitutional rights. The other point about warrantless wiretaps, is another myth. Under the FISA guidelines (instituted by BJ Clinton) intelligence agencies are allowed to wiretap, provided they seek a warrant within 24 hours, or as soon as it is practicable to do so. Stop parroting the Kos Kooks, and state the facts instead of repeating leftist truth-speak. Its kind of like almost every democrat, upon exit polling believed that Sarah Palin actually said she was qualified for the VP job because she could see russia fro her house, when in reality it was a line spoken on Saturday Night Live, in a parody, but many on the left actually believed that Palin spoke those words. What a wonderful generation our public schools have produced, mindless zombies, who cannot think critically, nor reason logically.
- Kevin, Campton
- Tim, Boscawen
- Cathy, Northfield
- SID, PLANO TX
If one of the people he met along the way had been armed, he could have been stopped. Millions of people in the US own guns and they do not go beserk. We do not yet know what caused this or if he even had the guns legally. Be carefull of what you read on MSNBC!
It is very difficult to have a gun in Germany. Obviously, their anti-gun laws did NOT work.
- sally, candia, nh
I bought my first firearm after I saw what happened in New Orleans after Katrina. I pray that my gun remains locked up forever but...
- bandofotters, Hampton NH
Obama has in fact stated that he supports a handgun ban in cities and in fact voted for one in Chicago while serving as a state senator.
He voted yes in one Dem primary survey over whether he favored a DC gun ban and yes on another survey that asked if he favored citizens only being allowed to own "hunting" firearms.
The Senate vote is part of the public record and the surveys are available online.
Nice to know, though, how many Obamanics actually understood what their savior believes. Talk about an ignorant mass.
- William Simpson, Concord
-The only reason citizens need guns? You think you know better than the founding fathers? I don't need your permission to have a gun. Like you don't need permission to spew anti-gun rhetoric.
- David Parent, Manchester
The only reason citizens need guns for protection is because citizens have guns.
- Dave, Sandwich
- JW, Manchester
Law abiding citizens are legally purchasing guns because they have a legitimate fear of the current administration..and they are trying to stimulate part of the manufacturing portion of our economy, namely the gun manufacturers, who are some of the best in the world, if not THE best.
All of you lawful gun owners, join the NRA and the Gun Owners of NH. Your dues will ensure the security of this great republic. Do it now.
- Melvin, Keene
http://www.nh.gov/constitution/billofrights.html
Why do I carry a gun? Because cops are too heavy.
- Chris L, Manchester
- Bill, Manchester
- Don, Manchester
Why on earth would Mexican drug gangs go through hoops to buy sporting rifles that only look like AKs in the US, when they can just get full-auto military weapons from the Mexican army when they recruit the soldiers into their ranks?
News flash. THAT IS WHAT THEY DO!
Try watching some of the gun battle videos down there. You'll hear lots of full-auto fire from the druglord side.
Do you know how hard it is to buy a full-auto in the US?
See? Thinking isn't so hard, is it? Try it before you vote next time, since that sort of thing is what got us Obama!
- Mike R., Bedford
For the record my Bushmaster is not simply just a semi-auto rifle. That's like saying a Ferrari is just a little car. I'll defend your Constitutional right to own one but don't down play what it is. There is a reason I dropped $1000 on the rifle and another $900 on a scope. My semi-auto .22 cost me under $500 with a scope. That's a "simple semi-auto".
I'll let others debate the anti-gun/pro-gun argument here and simply ask this question:
Why don't more people support the entire Constitution? Warrantless tapping of Americans and Habeas Corpus are clearly covered in the US Constitution but where were all these people I read here when that destruction of liberty took place under Bush 43.
Habeas Corpus gets nothing? What good will your guns do when they snatch you up and deem you a subversive with no ability to defend yourself? Get a clue people.
- John R, Keene
This whole article is insane, people lining up four deep to buy guns they have no need for. Might have to change the state motto: Live free AND die.
Get a grip. This isn't the Bronx and the crime rate for most of NH is so low that owning a pellet gun is a joke. 90% of the so-called victims involved in robberies are into sketchy things to begin with. Normal, law abiding citizens have no need for shotguns to protect anything.
- Bills Cat, Hudson & Boston
- Tom, Dover-Foxcroft, Me.
You wondered what Freud would say about that picture? Well...let me enlighten you. This is a direct quote from the man himself.
"A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity."
- Jim Powers, Bedford
And why do you think this is one of the safest states to live in? t is because the bad guys know that most of the residents are armed and they are unable to tell the, as you say, liberal tree huggers from those who are armed. The last thing they want is to try to rip off an armed person. By the way, a lot of tree huggers are armed, too.
- sally, candia, nh
- Dan D, Bedford
My answer to a person such as this is just simply this,"When Seconds count, Police are only minutes away."
Bick in Az. used to be in Northfield NH
- Elbert Bicknell, Wickenburg,Az 85390
I am the wife at home while my husband is on a business trip. I know where the gun and ammo are located. I have had training and am realistically a good shot. If the necessity arose to protect my kids I can gladly say "I've got a gun and I'm not afraid to use it!"
- Patricia, Raymond
Also, lot of "liberal tree huggers" also own guns. You know what state might be considered even more gun friendly than NH?? Vermont. That's right - a state full of tree hugging socialists. But they know one thing - they have the right to keep and bear arms and even their socialist legislators don't dare mess with that. Vermont is also a very safe state. Coincidence? I think not. You say: "knowing that their safe in one of the safest states in one of the safest countries in the world"
Jay - why do you think this is? Think about it. And also think about the victims of home invasions (yes, Jay - it DOES happen) who have been beaten, raped, or murdered before you give us your dime store psychology. Your casual dismissal of these victims is offensive.
- Mark, Amherst
Anyone here actually know what it takes to revoke a constitutional amendment? Ever hear of one of the Bill of Rights being revoked? It won't happen.
Enough with the scare tactics, this right isn't going anywhere soon.
- S Perreault, Milton, NH
It just seems to me that there is a line that even gun advocates would agree on, and this debate is over where to draw that line. My view is that military grade weapons designed for the sole purpose of killing human beings should be banned, same as a grenade. That is all. I have no problem with self defense, I have no problem with hunting and any other legitimate use. But these are offensive weapons we are talking about.
America's lax gun laws are providing terrorists with easy access to weapons, which is a big factor in the increase in violence along our Mexican border.
We spend billions making sure that I can't carry toothpaste onto a plane, but any nutcase can walk to walmart, buy a gun, and head to the school next door with it.
That just seems really dumb to me. (queue the inevitable list of people calling me dumb now...)
- mike, hampstead
From the tone of your message I think its safe to assume you are an anti-gun person. It also sounds like you really don't like anyone with an opposing view. How enlightened of you!
- Dan D, Bedford
- We could tell you. But why waste the time. The constitution says we can. Case closed.
In the meanwhile, all the liberal tree-huggers these guys like to make fun of are happy and fine in their house, knowing that their safe in one of the safest states in one of the safest countries in the world, not spending half their day dreaming about some sick fantasy of being attacked by hordes of robbers. - Jay, Simpson
- Yes, I agree, ignorance is bliss. Darwin’s theory will take care of them when the day comes. Now go hug a tree. But watch out for those hungry squirrels, they make mistake your head for an acorn.
- David Parent, Manchester NH
Your statement is tragically offensive to every law abiding citizen that has been on the receiving end of a violent criminal bent on mugging, assault, home invasion or worse.
NH has a much lower crime rate in part because Criminals know that there is a very very good chance that they will encounter a Citizen that is capable and determined to protect themselves and their families in places that they have a right to be.
- JP, Warner
All law-abiding armed citizens know this. If you do not trust yourself with one, then by all means, don't own one. No one wants you to have one if you do not learn how to use it properly. Sign up for a basic safety course and you will feel better about your abilities if that unfortunate day comes when you must protect yourself. Sooner the better.
- Rick J, Manchester, NH
What I find absolutely hilarious is that all these "tough guys" are terrified to be in their home without being surrounded with weapons; and you know what I'm talking about. Most of these people don't just get one gun; they have rifles and handguns and maybe a pretend assault rifle or two. All of this spending in the middle of the biggest recession in years; it's just ridiculous!
In the meanwhile, all the liberal tree-huggers these guys like to make fun of are happy and fine in their house, knowing that their safe in one of the safest states in one of the safest countries in the world, not spending half their day dreaming about some sick fantasy of being attacked by hordes of robbers.
Sick-sick-sick-sick-sick...
- Jay, Simpson
- SID, Plano, TX (X NH rez)
- Dan D, Bedford
- Ben, Manchester
- fpc, manchester
After all, our Government has always had our best interests at heart and would never infringe on ones individual rights, freedoms or liberties.
- Wally, Manchester, NH
Tim R, Bedford
- Tim Roberts, bedford
Add to this the stated goal to reject the Tiahrt Amendment which allows Law Enforcement access to gun trace information relevant to an investigation but prevents cities and police from arbitrarily running and collecting information on WHO owns firearms.
The Tiarht Amendment protects gun owners from being targeted by arbitrary government and bad actors like the senior Senator from New York.
Lets remember folks that additional gun control laws are NOT going to reduce crime; it will only harm otherwise law abiding citizens who happen to be gun owners
- JP, Warner
- Cathy, Northfield, NH)
and will there be a highly trained police officer there at the split second you need them...I don't think the Bad Guy will wait for you to dial 911.come on sheep,uncover the wool that has been pulled over your eyes..it's a sad,sad thing the world has become when most believe their only way to survive something is to depend on others.
- matt, epsom,n.h.
Looks ain't function.
It's a semiauto rifle, meaning one round is discharged at each pull of the trigger. No military in the world uses such venerable, old technology. They all have rifles that can go "rock 'n roll," fully automatic, which means one engagement of the trigger unleashes a torrent of rounds.
Jeez!
Also, the article completely overlooks a concomitant feature: ammunition. Buying guns isn't enough when proposals coming down the pike that would effectively limit ammo by making it prohibitively expensive mean smart, prudent people realize ammo will only get more expensive. Much more. Stock up on ammo, people.
This phenomenon is a reaction to the nonentity in the White House--who doesn't even know which end the rounds comes out of--and his virulently anti-gun Attorney General, Eric Holder. I've never been so assaulted and threatened before in my life as when I lived in Washington, DC, which had an outright ban on handguns until Heller.
I'm in agreement with the organization Jews for the Preservation of Firearms, an NRA on steroids. Liberals are often pathetic when it comes to the Second--Second!--Amendment, the ultimate guarantor of liberty.
- Brent, Moultonborough
- Pete, Manchester
- Erik, Manchester
I own a number of expensive shotguns and large calibre rifles, and no I didn't buy them this week in response to stupid fear and loathing on the part of GOP koolaid addicts. I bought them while a made a tidy fortune on mortgages you loooosers were sucked into! The rich (me) get richer! The poor buy guns! You can use them to shoot yourselves when you are done giving your money to people like me:)
- Harold, Bedford
To all those who believe that President Obama is not anti gun, one only needs to look at the answers he supplied to a 1996 questionaire given to candidates for the IL state senate. Still refuse to believe that he is anti gun? Read the legislation he co-sponsored in 2000 attempting to restrict access by limiting purchases.
- Frank, Londonderry
I usually hear that if you own a gun you should have it locked away with the ammunition stored seperately.
MY question is if I do buy a handgun and store it this way, what good is it if an intruder breaks into my house? I can't ask him to please wait while I go unlock my weapon.
So what do most of you do about this? Do you keep the handgun loaded next to your bed? My house is a single level ranch. If somebody's breaking in, how do you get to your handgun in time to protet yourself.
- BC, Salem
- JW, Manchester
Not all gun hobbyists are fools, but apparently some are!
- Grover, Dublin
I think the issue is clear to Washington and I have no fear of Obama taking this liberty away. However, the rising incidence of Home Invasions worries me. Our law enforcement people MUST take serious action when bringing these criminals to justice. By the way, the home invasion in Hooksett a week or so ago, were they ever caught?
I've seen nothing about it recently in the UL. Someone please advise.
- Bob Ahern, Derry
They are one of the few businesses making money right now?
This just may be one of your most accurate comments yet. Congrats!
It's just to bad that one of, if not THE, only economically stimulative thing(s) he's done has been unintentional.
I guess it's true: Even a blind squirell finds an acorn every now and then.
Bryer, Chief of Staff Rhambo just called. He begs you to STOP HELPING!
- Mike P., Manchester
Thanks for your offer of aid in the defense of liberty, Joel, I believe you are sincere. Then again, my belief in your sincerety may be just my hysterically fevered mind talking.
Take a look at some of the info cited on this thread, Joel. You may just learn that you are putting way to much faith in your man, Obama. Or maybe you are just trying to 'muddy the water' in service to him. It's so hard to tell anymore.
- Mike P., Manchester
(I mean, aside from mowing down a zombie army or some other form of armed combat, what's the legitimate argument that demonstrates a NEED for semi-automatic weapons?)
- Bob, Nashua, NH
- Bob H, Londonderry
Don't misunderstand I am not saying there is no great cause for worry. Opposition to gun control takes an engaged citizenry. In 1994, 21 Democrats in the House of Representatives lost their seats to gun control including NH's Dick Swett.
Obama's intentions are clear and are on the White House Web site in the agenda section. This isn't the time to back down if you care about gun owners rights and you are not a member of a gun rights organization like the NRA, Gun owners of NH or Gunowners Action League (GOAL) in MA the time to join is now.
- Chris, Merrimack
Look in the mirror! Also, Al was not displaying a semi-auto rifle!! It was a pump shotgun! Get your facts straight! Liberal yuppies are going to ruin us all in this country. It'll be a long time before anybody takes your rights away as a gun owner and your guns.
- Michael, Manchester
Also, Mike, since when is it wise practice to consider only what comes out of a politicians(or any person for that matter) mouth? Shouldn't the astute among us also look to their past deeds, or misdeeds, when considering their veracity, or lack thereof? Well, Obamas record on gun rights is, at best, spotty.
Tracy(Manch), Huh?
Let's try this: Wake up silly people, abortion 'rights' are not liberty, you are deluded by the evil 'Big Abortion Industry'. Gals are so funny. I guess they'll do anything to avoid personal responsibility for their actions.
Tracy, do your sentiments, after having been rephrased, still sound as erudite as you first thought, or have they suddenly taken on a darkly partisan tone?
It is most certainly an argument about liberty. A quick reading of the Founding Fathers thoughts on the subject tells us so.
Given the fact that the Founders vehemently supported private ownership of firearms and just as strongly opposed abortion "rights", far too many in our society seem to view these two issues exactly a$$backwards. At least when our Constitutions original intent is considered.
Original intent? What an increasingly quaint concept.
- Mike P., Manchester
The threat to legal gun ownership is much more sinister, because if we collectively lose our ability to purchase guns there most likely won't be a grace period. We won't be able to wait patiently with fingers crossed at Sears until the next delivery arrives.
My emergency preparedness kit includes food, water, warmth, basic medicines, and protection from 2 or 4 legged animals. Other than the lack of a generator (eye roll please) preparations turned the ice storm into a camp-out at home. A good Girl Scout or Boy Scout is always prepared.
If someone doesn't like guns, and/or doesn't think they could use one to protect themselves should the need arise, then they should make a decision about their personal ownership of guns. They should not, however, make the decision about others ownership of guns. I have come to terms with the implications of protecting myself and my family, should the unthinkable happen, and therefore am confident that this woman would not yield a weapon to an intruder.
Remember, when guns are outlawed only the outlaws have guns.
- Erica, Derry
- Paul, manchester
Obama was supposed to bring unity, honesty, transparency and prosperity and he's been nothing but a divider and made everyone fearful for their possessions and their rights. His supporters are more strident in insisting that we have no freedom of speech and have even done some really nasty things, while at the same time touting peace and harmony. (I can't give an example as a lawsuit is pending) The next big move is the legislation that will try control FOOD. Watch for that one. It's coming up soon.
This whole Rush thing is a diversion -- to take the focus off the criminales in the WH and what they are doing to us.
And yes we all hope Obama will FAIL -- fail to ruin this country, which he seems to be doing at an alarming rate.
- Sue, Manchester
- fpc, manchester
His AG even says they want to resurrect the Assault Weapons Ban. A useless law if there ever was one.
- Bill Dutton, Derry, NH
- Tracy, Manchester
Keep drinking the Cool-Aid Tracy from Manchester. B.H. Obama's negative stance on the second amendment is FACT, proven by his track record and confirmed by his cabinet appointments, i.e. Holder, Biden, Clinton, etc., etc.
Brian
Exeter
- Brian, Exeter
- Greg, Manchester
A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
I take this to mean that the state has the right to establish a militia. Then the People have a right to be armed too.
From the Virginia Declaration of Rights 1776
SEC. 13. That a well-regulated militia, or composed of the body of the people, trained to arms, is the proper, natural, and safe defense of a free state; that standing armies, in time of peace, should be avoided as dangerous to liberty; and that in all cases the military should be under strict subordination to, and governed by, the civil power.
Today they are training the Army to quell domestic unrest in America. Totally opposite of what the founders intended.
Here are a few definitions of militia.
1. An army composed of ordinary citizens rather than professional soldiers.
2. A military force that is not part of a regular army and is subject to call for service in an emergency.
3. The whole body of physically fit civilians eligible by law for military service.
BTW Obama's Chief of Staff, Rham Emanuel authored the 1994 omnibus crime bill. The public was told it was to ban semi-automatic guns. It was 1000 pages long and criminalized a variety of action, unrelated to guns. So any legislation that even comes close to violating an amendment to the constitution should be suspect. So this is not "paranoia", it is reality.
These people are the same ones like Governor Dukakis, who want to disarm you one day then let a murderer who disemboweled his victim alive, out on furlough the next. Ask yourself, Do I want this?
- Steve, Raymond
mike, hampstead
Actually, Mike we Americans DO have the right to bear any arm we see fit. DC and Chicago may enact laws surrounding licensing, background checks, registration, etc. but as stated in the constitution and reinforced by the supreme court, states may not declare an all out ban on an individual’s right to own one or many firearms. This is the law, which differs from your convenient exclusion of the truth. If you don’t like guns, don’t own them. I don’t like to listen to people like you speak but your covered under that pesky first amendment.
Brian
Exeter
- Brian, Exeter
John R. Lott Jr. is a senior research scientist at the University of Maryland who has studied and researched many firearms issues. He recently wrote:
“I knew Obama during the mid-1990s, when we were both at the University of Chicago Law School. Indeed, when I introduced myself to him, he said, "Oh, you are the gun guy." I responded, "Yes, I guess so." His response, as I recall it, was, "I don't believe that people should be able to own guns."”
No president has ever had as strong and consistent an anti-gun record as Obama – not even close. Study his extraordinary anti-gun record. Here is a politician who supported a ban on handguns in 1996, backed a ban on the sale of all semiautomatic guns in 1998 (which would encompass most guns sold in the country), and advocated banning gun sales within five miles of a school or park in 2004 (a virtual ban on all gun stores). He also served on the board of the Joyce Foundation, the largest private funder of anti-gun research in the country. Check out his current anti-firearm agenda (it’s hidden on the White House web site under “Urban Policy”). He’s hyper-anti-gun.
Are people’s fears legitimate? You decide.
- Larry, Lancaster
- Mark Norris, Andover
- TS, Bedford
See this page on the NRA's site about why Obama is a direct and dire threat to the 2nd amendment and why he would ban far more than assault rifles if he got the chance:
http://www.nraila.org/OBAMA/
To those who are buying their first guns, congrats and welcome. The more gun owners there are out there, the better. Please take a moment also to join the NRA:
https://membership.nrahq.org/forms/signup.asp
- Bob Thornton, Milford
- fred, Londonderry
- Sheana, Chester
I'm waiting for a story about the rise in wooden stakes and silver bullets too. I got an email from my crazy aunt saying that Obama's gonna allow illegal-werewolves to roam the streets.
- Breyer S., Manchester, NH
- Charles, Hooksett
- John Croteau, Candia
- JN, Merrimack
Where do you get off saying Obama isn't anti gun?He voted in Illinois many time against gun rights!!
- Paul, Nashua
It must be nice living in the comfort of your Alice in Wonderland world. Many of us prefer reality.
While you can choose to believe that our President won't lead an effort to restrict our 2nd Amendment freedoms, his actions show otherwise. President Obama is from one of the most anti-gun states in the entire United States. He selected the virulently anti-gun Rahm Emanuel as his Chief of Staff and rabidly anti-gun Attorney General, Eric Holder to his cabinet. He tried to get Tom Dasche into his cabinet but (sigh) he just "forgot" to pay his taxes (like just about everyone else in Obama's circle.)
Our country was founded on self-reliance. Sadly, too many people (like those who waited helpless on their roofs during Katrina) expect the gov't to help them.
The 2nd Amendment has never been nor will it ever be about duck hunting. When politicians (excuse me while I rinse my mouth out) say "We don't want to take away your hunting rifle", they are disingenuous. Politicians, especially those of the Liberal/Democrat persuasion, are all about controlling people.
To quote our first President and founding father "Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master."
We should all protect and cherish ALL of the Amendments enumerated in the Bill of Rights. So many before us gave up their lives so that we would have these freedoms.
- Jim Powers, Bedford
Your wife grabs a shotgun and confronts the guy. She's 115 pounds and has never killed a thing in her life. She needs to shoot this guy dead or incapacitate him. I'm betting that in 30 seconds you will have an angry drug-crazed guy in your house who's now armed with a shotgun.
I'm a gun-owner, but my guns are locked up safely and separate from the ammunition.
- Mr. D, New Boston
Mike, Hampstead - yes, Holder is already taking steps to limit an individual's right to keep and bear arms.
Hopefully, Obama's disregard for the Constitution will widen the nascent wedge between him and the blue-dog Dems.
- Tom, Campton
- Tony, Londonderry
- Mike, Concord
- Doug Marion County, Marion County Florida
- Wayne, Manchester
- Ben, Manchester
- Cathy, Northfield, NH
My hunch is that Obama's new health care project will declare that gun violence is an epidemic, that it costs billions of dollars a year in emregency room visits; that our health as a nation will depend on the elimination of gun onwership or the allowance of ownership under the most strictest of regulation.
Buy now!
- Nicky Saints, Milford, NH
Even IF he was in favor of banning guns, it would still have to pass the US House and the US Senate before it got to his desk for a signature. Mid term elections are next year...do you truly think any Democrat is going to do anything to rile up the folks in his or her district back home? Especially when it involves legislations to ban guns?
Get real. It's not going to happen now. There may be moves in the future to put restrictions on gun ownership, after the economy has righted itself, but for right now, as it's said, it ain't happenin'.
And I mean this with all sincerity...some of you folks need to get off the paranoia bandwagon. No one is trying to pry the guns from your hands. I can't stand guns. I don't hunt. But this is one liberal, Obama voting Democrat who would fight for your right to keep and bear arms. And I'm not the only one. But you need to start paying attention to more than Rush Limbaugh and the NRA. Because they're only telling you what they think you want to hear rather than anything close to the truth.
Peace
- Joel, Nashua
- Gene Smith, Contoocook, NH
- Brian, Farmington
- Rich, Hudson
- Bob, Flat Rock, NC
Will we ever really need semi automatic rifles to protect ourselves? I think people are getting a little paranoid BUT I do support having a firearm in the house for protection. Home invasions are way up.
I have a handgun just for that purpose. As well I have a real safe to protect it.
- BC, Londonderry
For those of you who consider firearms a "hobby", I will tell you that protecting my life and the lives of my loved ones is a full time occupation. For you to casually refer to our security as a hobby shows you have little regard for human life or civil rights. You should check your attitude on this.
And for those of you who want to ensure that our right to keep and bear arms is NOT infringed, two action items for you:
1. If you have not done so - join the NRA. If you are already a member, give a gift membership to a friend of family member.
2. Write, call, email your representatives in Congress and let them know you will not stand for any additional gun control legislation and that includes any new regulations regarding ammunition. DO NOT wait until such legislation is proposed. Contact your representatives now.
- Mark, Amherst
The exact situation vis-a-vis ammunition and the scarcity of handguns exists here in Florida; all over the state ammo is low or out of stock, gun inventory is lower than I've ever seen it. And this is all due to the real fear that this pinhead, Obama, is going to allow his attorney general, that race baiting nitwit Holder, to do his bidding on all things gun related.
You are wise indeed if you have a firearm and know how to use it; there is a serious disruption of our society and civil order coming. It is better to be prepared, trust me. The cops are NOT there to protect you; they are there to investigate after the fact.
And, yes, I do want Obama to fail; socialism is NOT what we need now or ever. And Obama IS a radical socialist and anyone who doubts that is naive and/or stupid to the bone.
Have a day. Bang Gunley
- Bang Gunley, Pensacola, FL
- Peter, Manchester
- CB, Derry, NH
- Mike Bodruk, Manchester
- John Croteau, Candia
To Mike in Hampstead, President Obama is not in favor of guns and private ownership. Look at how he responded to a 1996 questionaire on guns when he was running for the State Senate in IL. Look at the legislation he co-sponsored in 2000 that attempted to limit purchases. As for states rights, all powers not specifically enumerated in the Constitution are assumed to under state direction, That's where that pesky little 2nd Amendment pops up. You seem to think that the other nine amendments in the Bill of Rights applies to individuals, but not the 2nd. Why is that?
- Frank, Londonderry
There's a lot of stuff in the Constitution, but these people just use it as an excuse to justify their obsession with playing with guns, plain and simple.
If you are not a convicted felon, there's nothing to worry about......................
- Mike D, Concord
Obama never said he was taking anyone’s guns away and Biden said he does not support taking guns away.
The NRA, gun manufacturers and the Republicans are saying these things to create hype around the purchase and sale of guns. What you are witnessing is a sales tactic and a fabricated fear. It’s too funny to watch so many people fall for such a transparent ploy.
Think of how much money the gun manufacturers are saving on promotion. All they have to do is say “Obama might take this model away” and poof sales are through the roof to the point where orders are backlogged for years.
I just can’t stop laughing.
- Jim, Raymond, Nh
- Chris L, Manchester
- jeff, Goffstown
- Tracy, Manchester
- Horace, Salisbury
- Chris, Merrimack
We all agree there is a line to be drawn over arms that should be available in this country. We can't buy tanks, grenades, shoulder fired missles or artillery. So this debate is over two things. A) where to draw that line (including automatic and semi-automatic or not) and B) State and Local government's rights to set their own laws. Where are all the state's rights advocates on gun control when DC and Chicago wanted to enact their own laws? Yes you have the right to bear arms. No you don't have the right to bear any arm you want. What part of a "well regulated militia" do you not understand?
- mike, hampstead
I am a sport shooter, competitor, veteran of 2 branches of the armed forces and not a hunter. Shooting is as legitamate a sport as baseball, except the tools used are the target of people who probably have never tried to shoot for fun in their lives, and want to deny those of us who enjoy the sport our hobby. By the way, Union Leader check out how many people are killed and mamed by baseball bats in attacks each year and do an article on that. Or at least proof read your front page for accuracy.
- pete, sunapee
Thomas, I would prefer that my guns remain in the closet and for them to not be needed. I don't consider that to be a waste, rather I consider that to be good fortune.
- DM, Hampton
a cheap expense for LIBERTY
- dennis chapel, manchester
- Bill, Auburn
- Michael King, Epping
If a home invader were in your home, you might have seconds to react to protect your family, and the police, while helpful and courageous, can be there in minutes. They cannot magically appear.
Some people realize that too late. Other people arm themselves and get training, taking responsibility for defending their own families.
Because if you think "It only happens to other people", YOU are the "other people" to everyone else.
Yes, I shoot targets for sport, it's fun competition, but I also have a handgun and semiautomatic rifle I am proficient with in case bad things happen. Because it's my right.
You do not need to own such, or bear such responsibility if you do not want to, but do not insult those who do, and do not infringe on those rights in any way.
A lot of Katrina survivors were glad to have a neighbor with guns to run behind when the police couldn't come. Law-abiding gun owners are good, peaceful people with a tool and skill that they will use to defend their family, friends, even neighbors from harm. That's what the Founding Fathers intended.
- Mike R., Bedford
Moves to outlaw guns would have a drastic effect on the streets. These "illegal guns" would also be available with silencers. A perceived bad driving action could become fatal. Imagine the law enforcement quagmire this could create.
Gun laws have always resulted in increased assaults and robberies where ever they are enacted. The average citizen, fed up with being a victim, could decide to arm himself illegally. And with little or no chance of prosecution for using the firearm, may opt to stop being a victim.
So before you support any gun laws, just look at how well the "drug laws" are working.
- Steve, Raymond
- Thomas, Laconia
Hopefully, gunowners -- especially new gunowners -- will join a club like ours to improve their skills, build friendships, and network with others who enjoy the shooting sports. Find us at www.ChesterRodAndGunClub.com
- Ed Holdgate, Sandown, NH
If you listened to what Rush said, he NEVER said he wanted Obama to fail. He said he wanted his socialist policies to fail. He said that if Obama stands for fiscal conservatism and acts like Reagan, he would support him 100%. But apparently you're just playing into the Democrats and being scared of being labeled as a true Conservative. If you disagree with Rush, that is fine, but don't manipulate his words. Or better yet, just don't even mention Rush at all.
I wish you were in my district sir because a comment like that would have assured that you lost this Conservative's vote in 2010 not for disagreeing with Lumbaugh, but for manipulating another Conservative's words in order to appease others.
- Fred Jenkins, Manchester
Its honestly just a matter of time until he starts in on the right to bear arms. First it will be semi-automatics, then it will be hand guns, and finally rifles/shotguns. Welcome to European style Socialism everyone....
- Chris King, Manchester, NH
Or a pump shotgun. Practically the same thing, right?
Sometimes we need an eye-roll emoticon on here.
- Kevin, Lancaster
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