YOUR COMMENTS

frank from laconia you say this is why you wish you could move out of nh....hello i drove truck cross country and there's much worse even small towns have issues..wake up!!!! i dont live near you but this article caught my eyes and tore up my heart..yes i agree with alot of you, the p.d. was only at fault if she requested the escourt and never got it.. and what the heck the gun wasn't to be in his possition who screwed up on that should be served papers..i feel for all family and friends involved i'm amazed at dad and how he held on and got help and carried his daughter in his wounded condition,i'm sorry you had to see you'r daughter go threw all that as well but stay strong for your grandchild who needs your help to see threw all the horror that(not in his right frame of mind) person put everyone threw he's already gotten his..he's not living happily ever after, but you all can, just keep all the good thoughts and memories close to your hearts and help eachother threw expecially the children
- lisa, in the sticks,, nh

first off i would like to thank everyonr for their support and prayers, i am a close family member and we would like to keep alot of this private for the kids, they are old enough to read, so please be careful these were someones parents you are talking about, reguardless of what we might think about them, they were 3 childrens worlds, ( 2 of whom are from 2 separate relationships, and one who lives with missy and john 1/2 the time, the mother had joint custody with john) so please get your stories corrrect, including the union leader,
- family, manchester nh

Everyone needs to remember that Jon and Melissa have friends and family reading these comments. Missy & Jon were close friends of mine and my neighbors, my brother Dakota helped save Missy's father. Melissa was a great woman and loving mother. She would do anything for anyone. Jon was also a great person and what he did was NOT the Jon i knew.. no way. Atleast 100 people were immediately affected by this tragedy.. Rest in Peace Missy- I miss seeing your beautiful face everyday..
- Devyn, Manchester

I am amazed and a little sick to my stomach to be reading some of these posts, some of which have nothing to do with the tragedy that happened. First, something like this could happen anywhere (remember Mont Vernon and Londonderry's recent tragedies?)- you can't blame the city. Second, I think the legal system needs to take a hard, fresh look at "restraining orders and orders of protection" because they don't seem to do much. After an assault, there seems to be something wrong with the fact that he was back on the streets that quickly with a gun !!!! Third, I knew Jon from years ago when he was married to someone else. Aside from something personal he did to my boyfriend at the time, he did have personal history of getting into trouble, but so do a lot of others. I did know him to be a really nice guy with a good heart, especially when it came to his kids. However, I am NOT defending him at all. I wonder how many of us could just snap one day......What happened is just so sad and just shouldn't have happened if said legal system had better procedures. I never had the pleasure of knowing Melissa, but may she rest in peace. My heart goes out to all parties involved. I hope all of the kids will get the help they will need to cope with this.
- Michelle L., Manchester

My heart goes out to the families involved. They are in my heart and prayers.
My question is this: Why wasn't the mom allowed to stay in the house with her children and stepchildren and the dad held on bail? And of course under any type of restraining order any guns in the household must be removed under police supervision. perhaps I am wrong . Please correct me if I am not!!
My heart goes out to the family.
- Sue Smith, Derry NH

This isn't about gun control. It's about domestic violence and the court system. How in the world was this allowed to happen considering the court order.

I think the hero in this story is the father. They should rename Jewett Street after him: Cantin Street.
- Michael, Hudson

First and foremost, my deepest condolences to all those who are grieving the loss of a loved one as a result of these senseless acts, particularly the innocent children.
In response to the comments that the MPD had no way of knowing this situation could escalate and become violent and/or deadly- I whole heartedly disagree, for that is the sole reason this young woman went through the process of obtaining the protection order. She feared for her safety. To the individual praising MPD for "preventing any collateral damage" with all due respect, I personally would consider the loss of this young woman's life, (as well as the woman in Londonderry) about as collateral as it gets. It comes as no surprise to me that both husbands ended their own lives in the end- as it assures they will never be held accountable for their actions.
For the last 13 months I have been discovering first hand how completely useless protection orders are. They can (and often are) violated repeatedly without so much as a blink from law enforcement. Protection orders, court orders, findings of contempt, it is all irrelevant. As long as law enforcement, by taking no action, reiterates to the abuser that he will suffer no consequences, he can continue on believing the law does not apply to him.
More must be done to enforce these orders, and law enforcement must follow through when the orders are violated, or we will continue to see this same story on the 6 o'clock news for generations to come. Id like nothing more than to hope these recent tragedies will be something of a wake up call, but Im far too hesitant to get my hopes up.
Again, my deepest condolences to the friends and families of those involved
- Michelle, Manchester

Let me get this right, when the original assault took place, Wed. evening, having charged the shooter with simple assault/domestic? Why not assault & battery, making it more than a class B misdemeanor? Equals more bail, more time in jail. How about surrendering all firearms at the time of bail for simple assault, A&B , reckless conduct. Too late now I suppose.
- P hickey, Campton

Do people really believe that if the father had a gun that only the husband would have been hurt or kiiled? The flawed logic here is that more guns on the scene would have reduced the magnitude of the violent outcome.

Let's see what a likely scenario is:

Husband waiting with gun to shoot his wife when she arrives. She and her father arrive. husband shoots wife and father. Father shoots back at husband.
Seems like more guns don't decrease the violent outcome. What a shock.

The obvious issue in this tragedy is the court NOT following through with the surrender of the man's rifle. If the court had sent a cop home with the man to commandeer the gun immediately after issuing the restraining order, then yesterday's tragedy might have been averted.
- Dan, Auburn

Can you say - gun control!!!
- Frank, York Me

After reading the article I only have one question, and that is that the article says she was supposed to go there with the police. Why did that not happen?

If she called for such an escort and was denied, heads should roll.
- Howie Howe, Manchester

Please don't defend or even mention any sympathy for Jon. Anyone out there who worked w/ him or knew him & regarded him as a respectable individual, talk amongst yourselves. I didn't know this woman but alot of other people here did.She was obviuosly a well liked or loved person. Her father & children will live this horror forever. Why would any father or husband put their wife or children through this trepidation. God may forgive, but children will never forget
- Dan P., Manchester

I'm not usually one to blame the police for things like this. They can't be everywhere or control every wacko out there but it seems that this could have been prevented by them. If she took out a restraining order on him, why was he allowed to keep his gun? The police were aware that he had it. If they believed him to be dangerous enough to grant her a restraining order, shouldn't they have believed he was too dangerous to keep a gun? He was ordered to turn it in? Did they think he was just going to march down to Chestnut and Merrimack and hand it over? How about going to his house and forcing him to give it up?
- Jocelyn, Manchester

This is a tragic situation for everyone. My sympathies for the family of Melissa and Jon, for their children. Everyone including all of Jon and Melissa's friends now are trying to make sense out of all of this tragedy. I knew both of them and I think it is safe to say that none of us who knew them thought it would ever come to this. If anyone did they would have done something to stop it all hopefully. Rather than place blame lets spend our time helping both Melissa and Jon's families get through this horrible time. Heal and learn don't blame
- Sue, Londonderry, NH

My thoughts are with Missy's family - her child, step children and her parents.
- Laurie, Manchester

From "Manch-Vegas" to "Gangchester" in just a few years. Nice job, Guinta.
- Jeff, Manchester

Diane from Manchester:
This has a connection to Mass how? Why don't we blame states, cops, guns, everything but the nut that did it. Get over yourself seriously. Why don't we take a look at the real picture. Are you going to blame Mass for the raid at 3 Cousins? Or Mont Vernon? Or did you think of something or someone else to blame for that? People like you just urk me.
- Kristy, Manchester

I feel so bad for the family and the poor boy who just lost both parents. I wish some of you who are commenting about clothes and such realize that a 7 year old boy just lost his mom and dad. A father had to see his daughter get shot and he tried to save her but couldn't. How do you think this makes him feel. Yes who ever bailed him out should not have done that. A police officer should have gone to the house with this female. But that didn't happen and now this little boy who was across the street when this happened lost his parents. I want to know how the little boy is doing. This is very sad.
- Julie, Manchester, NH

Rachael, get a grip. I am sorry your Daughter had to wait in the school safe for almost 2 hours while a gun toting murderer was loose at an unknown location in the area. Pull your head out and think about how you would feel if they let 300 hand wringing mothers into the school at the same time to pull their kids out of the safety of the school and into the parking lot where this madman could of been aiming his rifle into the crowd of kids pouring out of the safety of the school.

Notice I keep saying safety of the school.

let it sink in for a minute.
- Scott, Goffstown

This is about one thing: domestic violence. This is not about high street crime rates, police presence or city politics. This is about one person wanting to have power and control over another so extreme that he killed his wife and the mother of his children. This is just one example of the daily occurences that happen in domestic violence situations every day in our city, except that it was played out in the most public and lethal way. This victim did everything right using the courts and law enforcement. Manchester has strong community recources, neighborhood watches, and is a healthy community. It's time we addressed domestic violence on an individual and community level.
- Ann Pillsbury, Manchester

Shame on some of you people! Obviously some of you will only say something to see your name in print! If you only know what you read, then keep your mouth shut (or keyboard for that matter)! I was in the command post that night with the MPD and top law enforcement officials. Every one of them was professional. The mayor was there and if i was a member of the MPD, I'd want my boss there to show support. Bitching about camoflage...get real. The issue here was keeping eveyone safe from John Charbonneau and they did a great job! If you want to mouth off, try getting in touch with Melissa's mother and give her your condolences. I had to call her and tell her her daughter had been shot. Try that you ignorant people!
- Bill C, Manchester

The restraining order said he had to surrender his weapon? Why did he still have it with him? Something is VERY wrong here and there needs to be some follow up.
- Mike, Concord

Who cares what the swat team was wearing. I'm sure if your life was on the line, that would be the last thing on your mind. The MPD did a great job and I for one am thankful for what they do .
My prayers for the family during this very sad time.
- Claudia, Manchester nh

This is a sad situation and my thoughts and prayers go out to all the families involved. May you find comfort in the support and love of your friends and family.

I am disgusted by some of the comments posted. People wake up this has nothing to do with a mayor, officer, school, or area of town. Domestic violence and drug addiction affects us all, it hides behind closed doors in 1 out of 10 homes on every street. Chances are you have a family member dealing with one or the other. Leaving is the hardest thing to do I applaud Melissa for having the courage to walk away and her family for being right by her side.

I would like to say something to the women out there reading this wondering if they too should leave...YES MAKE A PLAN, GET OUT, GET SAFE. The system can work and there are places that can help you. MPD or the YWCA will connect you with the right resources to get out safely.
- L, Manchester

Maybe we should close the border between NH & Mass to keep the thugs out.
- Diane, Manchester

I can't believe that people actually are focusing on what the SWAT teams wore. This wasn't Project Runway and you aren't the fashion police. Get a clue, a young mother is dead, her father wounded and two families are devastated. THAT'S the issue here. God, some people's priorities are so screwed up.
- Jenna, Bedford

Whoever bailed him out of jail is an idiot. That person or persons has blood on their hands. If they had left him where he belonged, in the cell, she would be alive today.
- Diane, Manchester NH

Excuse me, The shooting was at 2:03 and i picked my child up from school and that was at 3:45 so im sorry several hours means and hour and 45 mins. She was under her desk until i picked her up. Talk to your child. I never said the school did a poor job, i was kept behind the swat team for about an hour. The police told me i couldnt get to the school so i sat in a panic not knowing what was going on until an officer decided to speak to me.
The school in my eyes did awesome, and so did the poilice. My problem is with alerting the parents who couldn't get at the school to find out what was going on. I actually tried calling several times and couldn't get through. I got the message.
Its not the schools fault that they dont have the automatic call service to alert parents of such things. If the school caught on fire Hallsville has no way of contacting parents other then the news. Some people dont have the news at work.
My child was apparently under her teachers desk, safe im know of. The problem lies with in the manchester school district, not being able to notify horrified parents of these situations, and i am not the only parent who was held at the corner of Jewet and prout ave. It wasnt until i finally got an okay from the officer to move, when he said that they are releasing the children. So for my daughter she was under the desk for almost 2 hours. I then was able to go to the school via valley and jewett. Where there was a car accident that happened and provented me to move yet again. I was not one of those lucky parents who had the pleasure of having updates.
- Rachael, Manchester

October is Domestic Violence Awareness Month
All of us are linked, one way or the other ,to be horrible domestic Violence tragedy in Manchester NH. I did not know the young couple personally, but I do not think that knowing them is our only link.All of us can relate to Domestic Violence , be it a family member, a friend , a neighbor or even ourself. We can no longer allow our tolerance level stop us from continuing to help one that is suffering. We must make a stand !Please join me by visiting the New Hampshire Coalition Against Domestic and Sexual Violence at their website www.nhcadsv.org and honor victims of domestic violence.
Sign on to their signature advertisement. It will be posted in the Concord Monitor on October 25 . Do it for Melissa .
- Barbara Blanchette, Manchester

My heart goes out to this family, especially to this child that in a day has lost both parents. Let's remember that the Manchester Police Department is made up of humans and not superheroes so take into consideration what you say when these are the people, at any point in time, you might have to trust with the lives of your loved ones or even yourself. It would be nice to see some respect on these boards, just once.
- Tonya Ferrara, Manchester NH

To Art in Portsmouth, you can't be serious? Are you blaming the gun for this? Would it make you feel better if he ran her down with his truck? A murder is a murder is a murder. Everyone, stop blaming the weapons.
- j, manchester

Apparently when a court requires you to turn in your gun, you can do so at your leisure.
- Jim Wilson, Manchester

I agree that some people on here are saying some really stupid things. First thing is I live across the street from Hallsville school and the school did an awesome job protecting the kids, that was there top priority then once they were sure that the kids were safe the principal came outside and updated the parents on what was going on. And for the person who says there kid was hiding under the desk for hours not true cause the students were released only ONE hour after the shooting happened. The police and SWAT team did an awesome job as well, regardless of what they were wearing , they would have done just as well even if they were wearing clown costumes. As for those of you who think it is the police or the mayors fault for not stopping this before it happened you are just stupid. And if you think that it is just this city or state going down hill you should check the rest of the world, and if you still dont like it here you can go to Iraq and see how you like it there.

May God bless Melissa's family and may she rest in peace.
- Melissa, manchester

My question is, if someone here really knows the law is, if he was required by the court to turn in his hunting rifle, how long did he have to turn it in? I would think/hope that it would be immediately, but I don't know the law.
- Dave K, Sandown

My heart goes out the the family...I walk by Melissa's house everyday with my dog...I wish I could have been there to help her father. He is a hero...God bless Melissa's soul. May her young child grow up to know her beautiful spirit is ever present. To her father and mother: Peace be with you. Jonathan deserves where he is, which is not in heaven.
- samantha scott, mancheseter nh

David of Londonderry (formerly Manchester): moving didn't do you much good did it, as there was a domestic murder in Londonderry too this week.
- Lee, Manchester

Hay Art from Port-communist, shut your pie hole, don’t you mean sick people, sick people, sick people……the gun didn’t kill, the sick man did. If Mr. Cantin had a gun on him only one person would have gotten hurt/killed.....the person with evil intent.

This was a tragedy no matter how you look at it and we should all pray for everyone hurt by this.
- AMC, Troy

I understand that everyone has a title to their own opinion, but please be advised that the family and friends of this terrible tragedy read this website. This was something that escalated at a very quick pace and was unexpected. Keep praying that the families will be able to move on and heal, and the children will be ok.
- Mike, Manchester, NH

I keep reading this over and over and over again. Cannot believe she is gone.
- Old Friend, Portsmouth NH

Other things that are the fault of thte mayor and the chief of police:

1) the drought in Kenya. Tons of people dying...this has to be their fault.

2) the rain that we're supposed to have this weekend...the chief is 100% behind this...he knew we all wanted to have fun this weekend!

3) My daughter skinned her knee yesterday...why wasn't the mayor there to catch her while she played???

Sound ridiculous? You bet! And so do so many UL readers who've commented here today. The mayor and the chief of police are not mind readers, they cannot be everywhere at once and there was no way that either of them could forsee that Jonathan would take a hunting rifle and shoot his wife multiple times, shoot his father in law and then himself. None of the friends interviewed in the article saw it coming so why should the mayor or MPD be blamed? They are not gods...and even God gave humans free will...

My thoughts are with the families of all involved here and with their child who went to school and came home with the face of his family forever changed! That is what is important in this story.
- Kim LoRusso, Manchester

It is a sad sad day for all of us, especially the family. First of all I must say that the details of the crime should not have been published. It is disgusting when the reporters care more of how in depth the story is rather than thinking of the family.
On another note, When she expressed her concern for her safety and the childrens by reporting the previous incident as well as requesting a restraining order...the court should of stepped in and placed him behind bars! a piece of paper does NOTHING to prevent someone from being harmed. so shame on our legal system.. Im sure if it was a daughter or niece of one of the Judge's the outcome would have been more serious. Although it does not change anything now ( sad to say) .. It may help someone else in the future..
My prayers and thoughts are with both families as they deal with this horrible tragedy and loss. May God help you move pass this moment in life.
- Melissa, Manchester

I have know the Cantin's for many years, as they are our neighbors. They are nicest and kindest persons I've ever known. We watched Melissa grow up. She was a sweet, loveable girl who smiled and laughed all the time. John has always been a wonderful father and I know he was truly trying to help his daugther. I was shocked and sick to find out this happened. My prayers go out to the family.
- Linda, Manchester

Guns, Guns, Guns
- Art, Portsmouth

To the idiots fussing about the cops wearing camo, those are often the cheapest carriers for their vests they can get. The carrier is a washable garment that holds the vest. They're saving money.

Yeah, that's something to yell about.
- Mike R., Bedford

So much tragedy so close to home these days . . . Mont Vernon, now Manchester . . . children whose mothers have been taken away by senseless acts of violence . . . if you ask me, we all need to step up the vigilance--be more mindful of what's going on around us--report all things that are even remotely out of the ordinary--you might just be saving the life of your friend or neighbor--adopt a dog, he may save your life and the lives of your loved ones by letting you know something's amiss long before there's any chance of harm.

My thoughts and prayers are with this family during this difficult time . . .
- Maelisa, Henniker

Just a quick correction - the father of the victim is actually the art teacher Mr. Cantin's son, John. Mr. Cantin (Raymond) passed away years ago. Both good men. Both former military and honorable.

Melissa was an amazing, beautiful role model for her kids. She did the right thing by leaving her husband, she was educated and enigmatic, and is/will be sorely sorely missed.

Quit bickering about nonsensical things like camo (which is worn to alter/hide a person's silouette, not necessarily "hide" anyone btw). Take a moment and pray for the family. Then tell your family how much they mean to you.
- Carrie, SF, CA

1st and foremost, my sympathies to the little girl and her grandfather. Restraining orders are nothing more than a joke, but it is a start. In this case, this young lady was in fear for her life and that of her daughter, and rightfully so. 2nd, who the H#LL cares what the swat team is wearing ? Patrol Units got there first, tried to secure the area and called the swat team. These teams work together all the time, each man has a job and knows every man will do it. They're trained to handle situations like this. Contain the threat and the area. Yesterday both the patrol's and the swat team did an outstanding job. Congrats. Wether you like the police or not, why bash them for doing the job you could not get had you tried !
- Craig McIntosh, Allenstown

The city is falling apart and that is the failing of the mayor and alderman. Yes this was domestic violence, but what about the other shooting yesterday, or the bar selling drugs, or the near riot at the fireworks, or the fact that our high schools are ranked the worst in the state, or that our schools are so bad smaller contributor towns want to spend more so they can have their own schools, or that most of us can not sell our homes and move out cause our property values are all down because the city has crappy schools and high crime.......vicious cycle isn't it. Guess I should have just moved to Lawrence when I could. No one buying my home now. Well I guess maybe future department heads mights be interested anyway.
- Scott, Manchester

This is not about what state or city you live in, Domestic Violence exists everywhere. This is a tragic story about a loss of an innocent and beautiful soul that was taken unnecessarily. It should not be about anything else, other than that. My heart, support and prayers go out to Missy's family and friends......
- Amy, NC

This is in fact, a major tragedy, by all means. Why do people play the "blame game" when something like this happened. As a divorced father of two children, I have to say that this guy simply snapped. It's not the Mayor's fault, the neighbors fault, or the woman's fault. No excuses for the guy, he simply snapped. I feel incrediblly sad because the father who was shot was Mr. Canton, the art teacher at Southside Jr. HS back in the 1970's. My condolences to the families.
- Bruce Currier, Manchester

Blame the husband, blame the police, have discussions about women defending themselves, neighborhood watches......It is always the same things. Bottom line people have forgot how to treat one another!!
- Angelina, Manchester

Not for nothing, but the mayor and the MPD has nothing to do with this case. There was no way either of them could change or stop this from happening. Many people have a disguise and people believe one thing, but behind closed doors its a completely different story. I'm doubt anyone expected this to happen. This is a senseless tragedy, nothing more.

Save your crime rants and Mayor/MPD bashings for articles it may actually relate to..like drug dealing or gangs...but don't look silly posting about a domestic violence case and how somehow other people with no knowledge could have stopped this.
- L.A., Derry

My heartfelt prayers go out to the families involved in this senseless violence. Hopefully, their pain will ease with time.

The highest of praise goes out to our trained prosessionals who handled this situation with great organization and expertise. The schools, the EMS workers, the MFD, NH State Police and most of all the MPD did a terrific job. Their response was quick and calculated and showed that we as citzens can count on them in an emergency.

For those who chose this forum to denigrate our public servants based on uneducated criticism and unwarranted bias....shame on you!

For those who chose to bash the city of Manchester based on an act that could have tken place in any setting (as it did in Mont Vernon and Londonderry) please, get a life. There are no good explanations for senseless acts like these.

Again, hope that peace can find all those touched by this incident.
- Douglas, Manchester

JEFF K

I agree that the Manchester SWAT team is highly qualified, and probably does a great job.

However, to say they are one of the best in the country? How do you base that conclusion. Having worked in law enforcement for over a decade, and in multiple states, I have worked with many SWAT teams and have also seen crime rates in urban areas that make Manchester look like the town of Mayberry.

There are many "full time" teams in this country that run 700,800, or over a 1,000 SWAT calls a year. Look at any major city SWAT team, NYPD, LAPD, SFPD, Detroit, Dallas, Baltimore, Atlanta, Miami, the list could go on...plus the large State Swat teams that are very active and operatore "Full-time." They are either training, instructing, or on a call. I would argue that from real world experience alone, they are some of the best. Just my opinion... and I still stand behind Manchester SWAT.
- Ray, Manchester

This is truly a sad story--- I knew both the victim and the shooter very well--- My heart truly breaks for the kids involved in all of this-- there son JJ- now no longer has a mother or father and Johns other son and daughter from 2 sep. relationships are now also with out their step mother and father-- how do you tell your child about this???--- I grew up with John and new his behavior-he had a big heart but yes he also had a anger problem- never thought he would turn to this though but 2nd divorce might have put him over the edge!!I am very thankful my friend Ang was able to escape her marraige to him -- this could have been her--- so scary. My thoughts and prayers are with Roger, Donna his sister and kids at this difficult time. -- And For Melissa- God rest her sole.-- She was a sweet and giving person and didn't deserve this.--- My prayers are with her parents as well along with the rest of her family--- This world if falling apart. and we all need to work together and fix it.
- Shauna, Manchester, Nh

This just shows that all a restraining order is is something making it illegal to break the law. And a waste of time for courts but a cash cow for lawyers
- Dave, Plymouth

When will this madness ever STOP????Do not underestimate the power of marriage council.
- Ed H, Londonderry, NH

I feel really terrible for those kids. How awful for them. When Jon killed Melissa and himself, he forever killed something in his children, too. What a horrible monster he was. Let's hope the kids all of the love and support we can provide as a community.
- Kara S, Manchester

MPD should be applauded for the manner in which they handled this very sad tragedy. The officers clearly have been well trained and they did a fantastic job securing the entire area.
This tragedy shows just how powerful domestic violence can be.
MPD did a great job and the citizens should be proud to have an efficient and effective police force.
- Mike, Manchester

Q of Manchester,
you say "Thank God that SWAT can be there to help the police".

Who do you think SWAT is? It is a team of MPD who are partolmen and detectives with extra training who act on this special team when needed.
- Meaghan, Manchester

I really love the people who are convinced that domestic violence ONLY happens in Manchester & are therefore leaving the city. Thanks, I can feel the collective IQ points going up already.

As the former victim of domestic violence, I would like to give my condolences to the family. Please take good care of the kids and make sure they get help, so that they'll know how to do it RIGHT, because there's no telling what they've seen.
- Donna S, Manchester

John and my bf did a plowing route last December. This tragedy seems like a nightmare. Though I never got the chance to Melissa, my bf did and he told me she was a doll! Super nice and a sweet girl and their child was adorable.


My condolences go out to both families. May the deceased rest in peace.
- us, N.B., NH

May you rest in peace Missy.We will pray for your child and family
- amie, manchester

I am good friends with several members of the victims' extended family. This was a senseless tragedy. My thoughts and prayers go out to the families of everyone involved.
- Ed D., King of Prussia, PA

For everyone who is using this platform to degrade MPD, the mayor and everyone else, please remember a beautiful young woman has lost her life, a young boy has lost his parents, and two more children no longer have a father. Domestive Violence can happen ANYWHERE and Missy was trying to get out. Please remember that when you post what you have to say. Rest In Peace Melissa, you will be really missed. I wish her father a very speedy recovery.
- Lauren, Manchester

Dear Mr. Adloph in Manchester,

Great point! We sadly do live in a Godless society. Without some type of spiritual belief, there is no motive or reason for our criminals to live a positive, contributing lifestyle to our community. Without the fear of God, I'm afraid a life of grime and crime could be quite tempting as there are no foreseen consequences (after death).
My heart and prayers go out to the victims and their families.
- Daniel R, Pembroke, NH

Manchester is a beautiful city. I love living here. I feel safe here. I am not bailing. The crime here is part of our society. The MPD do their best to control it but it cannot be eradicated. We all wish it could, but that is the reality of society. I too moved out to the woods 10 years ago, but after four years, decided to move back to the city. After the Mount Vernon incident, I realized that it doesn't matter where you live. Some people are just crazy and you don't know when or where their "switch will flip" or the drugs take over. So because I can't control it, I will live in peace and keep my eyes open around me and I will have a good day, despite it all. May you all have a peaceful day.
- Loving Manchester, Manchester, NH

It is hard to find the right words to express how truly awful this must be for the son at Hallsville, in lock down while his family is taken from him! The only thing this boy needs now is his extended family and friends to guide him through this terrible ordeal. To Mr. Cantin, may God Bless You, you have suffered the unimaginable.
It's hard to fathom just how sick this coward(Charbonneau) must have been, for any person to express any sorrow or pity for him is beyond reason. His selfish actions have affected so many people, there are many victims in this story.
- BillyBob, Hooksett

Sincere condolences to both families touched by this horrific crime.
The schools could not possibly notify all parents because Manchester does not have reverse 911. The schools not directly involved had no idea what was going on, only that they needed to lock down. Their number 1 concern is and should be the safety of the children in the school. Job well done by ALL involved.
The other John
- John, Manchester

i can't believe the praise of guinta and the mpd. everybody knows all guinta and chief mirror do is talk. they think action is raiding a sleeze bar in daylight with the "So We Attract Attention Team". meanwhile, guns everywhere. maybe this tragedy was not preventable, but what about the rest? we need real crime-fighters.
- peter, manchester

Once again, that supposed-to-be bullet-proof piece of paper fails to stop another shotgun shell from killing the person who took out the restraining order.

The guy obviously had no respect for his wife and children what makes the courts think he is going to respect the justice system?

And if she had a police escort to pick up her stuff, there would also be a dead cop this morning no doubt.
- Paul Scorpio, Providence, Rhode Island

My thoughts and prayers go out to the entire family who I knew very well. Melissa babysat our children years ago before moving to Iowa and was a wonderful girl. Jon, recover quickly, you were always a role model to me!
- Mike Paquette, Cedar Falls Iowa

What a shame it is to read a story like this. This is why I sold my house 2 weeks ago less than two blocks from this shooting. I am just glad that the house sold quickly.
- David, Londonderry (Former Manchester)

Well David, are you going to sell your house in Londonderry now too? After all, there was a murder/suicide committed there this week as well.
- Paula, Manchester

Restraining orders don't stop violence. Well-armed victims do. More women should get involved with Second Amendment Sisters.
- CDR, Lebanon

My heart goes out to her friends and family.

I was an abused wife years ago. One thing I was taught was that going back to the house to pick up your things is the most dangerous as is the first month of the separation. I don't know if she requested a police officer to go with her but if one would have been there with her she might be alive now.

This type of crime is way too common and it needs to stop. The only ones who are in power to stop it, the victims, often feel the most powerless.

Men need to be taught as boys that a marriage license does not mean ownership.

The laws need to be tougher on abusers. There should be no such thing as man slaughter charges when a husband or boyfriend kills their significant other. They should charge them with murder and there shouldn't be any plea barganing allowed.

For those who abuse their wives the wife shouldn't have to press charges or testify. The bruises should be enough. The laws should be much more strict than they are. If a man or woman hits someone in an argument they should be charged with aggrivated assault and given the maximum sentence.

Every battered woman should know that a restraining order is just a piece of paper and offers no real protection. The only way it can offer protection is if the person it is against respects it and the consequences of "walking through it." Usually there are very few consequences. This needs to be changed too.

The cycle of domestic violence can end. It takes a lot of guts but it can. As long as there is life, there is hope.
- Sandy, Manchester NH

I knew John & Miss, and the kids...this was more than what you all know...the facts will come out...I just don't understand why she didn't go to the house with a police escort as she was advised to do.....problems in marriages escalate to desperation, and John was a desperate man...RIP to you both ... I love you .... and will do my best to see the kids and keep in touch....for all of you reading this, DON'T judge on what you DON'T know
- Anonymous, Manchester NH

So sad, the poor little boy...loosing both his mother and father
- Karen, Manchester

Unfortunately, all I see from the comments, is the blame being put on everyone else. What about you? Do you know how to defend yourself if the circumstance arises? It is time for the citizens of NH to take back their state. Ladies, learn to defend yourself. If a man knows that you can kick his ass, he is less likely to provoke a dispute knowing that you will defend yourself. The rest of you need to let these people know that the citizens of NH aren't going to stand for this any longer.
- Debbie, Concord

I had the pleasure of working with Melissa, may you rest in peace. You will be truly missed by many!
- Andrea B, Pembroke

To all those complaining about the city not being safe blah, blah, blah, how active are you in the community? Do you belong to your neighborhood watch group? Better yet, Have you taken the free 8 week citizens police academy offered by the Manchester Police department? Untill you have been educated and take an active approach you need to keep the negativity to yourself! Domestic Violence happenes everywhere and that is something that the mayor or police cannot control. There was a case of domestic violence in Londonderry in an upper class neighborhood. I have a child who was in lockdown at Memorial HS and I feel that the Swat team and the Manchester School District did a great job protecting my child. No one is forcing any of you to Live in Manchester so if you do not like it then move.
- Nikki B, Manchester

Guinta is not the best mayor but how in the world is this cowardly act his fault? This guy snapped let's blame Guinta lol some people are really foolish.
- Kim, Manchester NH

I am curious about the medication this man was taking, and it's possible side effects?
- mrgames2, Nashua

Hello people-

Never mind the mayor-what about the judge who let this guy out. It's too bad that you have to kill someone before they can do something. That poor father, trying to carry his daughter out of the house- I cant imagine how his life will be after this. Why do we feel we have to blame everyone else besides the Murderer??? I find myself doing it to.Why did'nt the friend alert someone after she knew that John had "lost it" after finding out he would'nt see his kids until after the Holidays??? Please dont misunderstand me, it's nobody's fault but the shooter-but even now in Mont Vernon-the neighbors heard the dogs barking and saw a car going really slow-there were signs- lets help our fellow neighbors when we hear and see things that may not feel right. I would rather be embarressed that I sent a cop out for nothing than to find out that I may have been able to prevent a tragedy. Lets look after eachother-keep eachother's loved one's safe to the best of our ability. I am in the habbit of minding my own business-I'm gonna change that and be aware of what's going on around me.
- Jennifer, Hooksett

i knew john and feel so badly for john john and his other kids
- bryan, manchester

I personally know this family and am shocked. Melissa is a wonderful person and will be missed by many. My thoughts go out to her 7 year old and her brothers and mother as well as prayers going out to her father to get well soon.
- Chentell Campbell, Bedford, NH

This is the worth of a piece of paper in the justice system. I'm so sorry for this family and to others in this situation please learn to defend yourselves as you are your first line of defense.

Again I repeat some legislators tried to pass a law last year making it easier for the good people to defend themselves. Those in power feel that right is only for those who get federal protection at tax payer cost or are Hollywood elites who hire body guards.

Some of you may not like firearms but you should consider your life worth saving simply because you're a good person. Society needs as many good people not dead as it can get.
- Deb, Derry

I know all the commenters are horrified at what occurred, but the term "domestic dispute" (used by many commenters below) grates. It minimizes the savagery of Mr. Charbonneau's act. This was not a "dispute." This was murder. It was also the culmination of a pattern of violence by Mr. Charbonneau upon his wife.
- Tina, Bedford

This is a very sad event. This is a perfect instance though that if we supported all citizens that arent felons or violent misdomenors should be armed, the dad possibly could have dropped this guy without at least getting shot himself. i pray for the family and hope people starting waking up to the ides that countrys with armed citizen have alot lower crime rates. This stuff is coming and will unfortunatly be more prominent.
- James Cross, Ohio

So, why didnt someone sieze his rifle when the order was issued? Expecting someone to turn it in on their own is ridiculus.
- John, Manchester

Come on people! Unless you've been in a violent relationship, you have no idea how hard it is to leave. This woman did all the right things, who knows how long she put up with the violence from her husband before she felt SAFE enough to do what she did. As one person wrote, "it is just a piece of paper", you're right it is just a piece of paper and won't protect the victim, NOTHING WILL protect when someone decides to do what he did. He didn't even think, he reacted. Which is what an abuser does.
My thoughts and prayers are with ALL the families involved.
- Lisa, Loudon

An absolute tragedy. Please also keep Jon's family in your prayers, they are suffering as well, and have lost their son. They are hard working, good solid people who have also had their family torn apart.
- Pam, Hooksett

- Tom LeBaladeur, Keene, NH

Tom,

Are you stupid? How on earth was Guinta supposed to stop this episode of domestic violence? Gangs and drugs he can act on, domestic violence cannot be prevented by a mayor. Get a life.
- Phil, Northfield, NH

Tom in Keene, you're an idiot. Who's to say your next door neighbor wouldn't do the same thing, is your Mayor resposible for people's lack of respect for human life? Really?
- Linda, Dover

Thank you Manchester Police Department.

Domestic disputes that end in death have happened in many cities.

The courts may want to make sure the person who has a restraining order against them is not at home if this is possible when the belongings are being picked up. If the courts may make a person who has a restraining order against them wait at a police department while the belongings are being picked up, the courts may want to.
- Ken Stremsky, Manchester, NH

Tragic. My heart goes out to all the victims of this senselessness. Melissa was an amazing person with a gold heart. This is such a shame. My deepest thoughts go out to her friends and family.
- Stephen, Los Angeles

"So sad.

If Mayor Guinta can't prevent such horrific crime in his own city, then we surely shouldn't be rewarding him with a congressional seat.
- Tom LeBaladeur, Keene, NH"

This is the single most idiotic statement I think I've ever read on this website.

Tom, if I choose to pick up a gun that I legally own right now and walk down the street and shoot my neighbor, please explain to me what Mayor Guinta can do to prevent it? Not even the MPD could prevent an event like that. Most of these things happen as spur-of-the-moment reactions. Is our Mayor now supposed to add clairvoyance to his full plate of duties? Even the violent crimes that are planned are not exactly broadcast by the perpetrators out to the world; "Hey, over here, we're gonna' go do a drive-by tonight." Come on, man...think!

As another poster pointed out, there are 100,000 (or whatever) residents of Manchester and a proportionally tiny number of police officers to protect every single one of us. Heck, even if the city employed 1,000 uniformed police officers, there would STILL be crimes like this. Neither the Mayor, nor the police, are capable of being supremely omniscient.

Tom must be partaking of those 4:20 gatherings out there in Keene.....

To the Manch PD: Kudos!, and another fine example of swift, strategic and well-organized tactical response.

To the families of the victim/s: My deepest condolences and Godspeed to the dad.
- Jeremy Jones, Manchester, NH

Tom L. of Keene:

This was a domestic assault. The courts gave him an order to stay away from his spouse, and he violated that order. He was waiting in ambush...

How in any stretch of the imagination could the Mayor or the MPD have stopped this tragedy?

Did you even read the article?

Best wishes for a strong recovery for the Dad and Good job MPD for preventing any collateral damage.
- Angelo, Manchester, NH

People need to realize that this was domestic, it could happen ANYWHERE. Police can not be in every home and prevent every situation. Be thankful for those that protect us the best they can with what they have and are trained to do. Would you be willing to take on that role? If not, have some respect and be grateful for those that are. My thoughts and prayers go out to those that are affected by this tragic loss.
- Danielle, Manchester

Melissa, may you rest in peace. You were a beautiful person inside & out. I am shocked and heartbroken. God Bless the families involved.
- Jessica M, Manchester

Shame on the Union LEader for not getting all their facts straight!!!!! Its bad enough you people posted this crap on the web, lets hope you get it right before it goes to print....HIRE A FACT CHECKER!!
- TD, manchester

Shame on Tom LeBaladeur for injecting politics into this. You are a sick person.
- Jim, Manchester

I went to high school with Melissa, and she was the most genuine, compassionate person. She was always friendly to everyone she came in contact with. She was a loving mother, who couldn't care more for her children. Melissa, you will be missed all because a selfish man decided to take you away from all who love you. Love to you and your family. May you rest in peace.
- Jennifer, Manchester, NH

What a shame it is to read a story like this. This is why I sold my house 2 weeks ago less than two blocks from this shooting. I am just glad that the house sold quickly.
- David, Londonderry (Former Manchester)

To Tom LeBaladeur in Keene. How could the Mayor prevent this? All you are is just a partisan hack.
- Gail, Manchester, NH

Tom LeBaladeur, That makes no sense. How is the mayor responsible for this tragedy?

My condolences to the family and friends.
- Joe Provencher, manchester

I feel like this has been such a terrible time lately. The horrific murder of that mother in Mont Vernon was so shocking, and now these shootings today. Have things always been this bad every once in a while, and I just never noticed before? Is this just a run of bad news lately, or are things in our half of the state just really starting to go downhill?
- Tracy, Auburn

Firstly, my sincerest condolences to all involved in this terrible tragedy. Secondly, am I missing something here? Someone correct me if I'm wrong or point me in the right direction but, in the picture I see noone wearing "camo". Anyway, it should not matter what they are wearing. They are out there putting their lives on the line to protect your a**... John. Get away from the TV for a while, look around you. Then you will see true reality.
- Kevin, Ridge, NY

Julie in Manchester, Jewett street School was put on lockdown as well.
- Matt, Manchester

So sad.

If Mayor Guinta can't prevent such horrific crime in his own city, then we surely shouldn't be rewarding him with a congressional seat.
- Tom LeBaladeur, Keene, NH

To Doug in Fl

You can keep your nanny State laws, this is the live free or die state. I don't need the government telling me how to live my life.

To the family of the victims. My sincerest condolences. My heart goes out to you.

To the MPD and Swat team member. You did a great job and should be commended.

To John, your an idiot and do not know anything about swat or special operations.
- Don, nashua

So sad; my thoughts and prayers to the victims and families involved.

The city has been slowly declining for many years. I grew up there in the 80s and 90s. While arguably not there yet, it is on a path to becoming just another small northeastern city with its best days behind it (e.g., Bridgeport, Springfield).

I fear this is only the beginning for cities around the country comparable to Manchester's size (cities with relatively low crime rates)--increasing crime rates as poor economic conditions grind on with less and less opportunity for many.
- Mike, Denver, CO

I was picking my son up at Hallsville during the incident. I want to say the MPD had things under control and so did the school. They were great with notify the parents and answered any questions we had. Also who cares what cloth were worn, really does it matter someone lost their life. Also it was domestic which could happen in any town any where, being in "the city" has nothing to do with it. It was very scary today, when I first approach the school I thought it was a school shooting. Sorry to the family and friends on their loss.
- Johanna, Manchester

This is a sad situation and my thoughts and prayers go out to all the families involved. RIP MC you were a very sweet and caring person who will be dearly missed. May your children remember you as wonderful as you were not for what happen to you today.
- Friends of family, Manchester NH

I have already commented on the important aspects of this story, but I also need to give credit to the UL for their reporting. Special kudos to Thomas Roy (see the photo credit). The shot captures the situation perfectly without a single word. Note the number of cops and the special vehicle that immediately says this situation is a big deal, the street shot shows it's a compact residential area, the stretcher shows that someone needs medical attention and the 20 mph school crossing sign conveys that children may be at risk nearby.
- Dan, Auburn

Why wasn't Jewett St school in lockdown? Also, if they had a good idea who did it (the husband) why weren't any pictures of him posted so we knew who to watch out for?
- Julie, Manchester

manchester, the armpit of NH
- soupy, gloucester, ma

First and foremost, my condolences to the family for their loss.

I just happened to be driving up Valley street at 5:30PM and saw what was clearly a well-organized effort to cordon off the neighborhood. Kudos to the MPD for their successful efforts. Despite the tragic loss of life, the tragedy could have been MUCH larger in scope.

As for the critics of the MPD and Manchester in general, this event was likely not forseeable, or preventable, by city autorities. Save your criticism for other crimes that are more applicable to the city's management decisions.

(Manchester resident for 34 years)
- Dan, Auburn

To everyone involved, from the victims family to the cops, and even the estranged husbands family, for every idiot out there that is politicizing this tragedy there are 1000 people praying for you all. Unfortunately, a certain group and their ilk think only of their ideology,not their fellow man., God speed and my prayers to you all. Even the haters.
- Allan, Rochester

Time to enact the nanny state laws- some of your folks are out of control.
- DOUG, Marion County Florida

Adoph --It's got nothing to do with God. I know plenty of people who don't believe in God who would not commit such a crime. Besides, if the person who committed this crime came to accept the word of the Lord, wouldn't the Lord accept him or her into the fold for eternity?
- Texter, Newfields

It is all done they took him away at 9 PM I saw it all from my porch.
- Jake, Manchester

The victims and their family & friends are in my prayers.
- Eileen, Franklin

John - realistically, they're probably wearing camo because the military has been phasing it out. It's a very affordable material.

I bet if I judged you by whatever you usually wear, I'd think to myself "Armchair Warrior."

Get real.
- Brendan, Manchester

John is right on the money. The camo's look stupid and unproffesional. How much do these "heros" make to run around like rodeo clowns? Let us hope this doesnt make the national news.
- Jake, Manchester

I've been telling you and I've been telling you. Mayor Guinta - it's time to live up to your word and reduce crime.

Get off the couch, relaxing time is over!!
- Richard L. Fortin, Manchester

I think the UL reporter needs to take a deep breath, slow down, and write a clear, well organized story so we can understand exactly what happened. The story was a mess...disjointed...and hard to follow. Can't even tell if the shooter, father, or wife succumed.
- Johnny B, Manchester

We live in a Godless society. The total, utter depravity of sinful man is so apparent every day. Only through the saving grace of Jesus Christ are we going to survive. Manchester needs the Gospel of Jesus. Amen and Amen
- adolph, manchester

Thank you Kathy from Maine for your sympathy. I cannot believe how others are posting ridiculous comments while we have a loved one who we will never see again.
- Family of Victim, Manchester

My wife and I know this family very well. This is truly terrible. She was one of my wife's best friend. Her husband slowly started getting possessive, jealous, and disconnected. She was leaving him. We are in shock. This family has been to our house, our children played. This man just lost his mind. Those poor children!
- Kris, Derry, NH

To John in Manchester: Are you kidding or what? You have to be kidding ...right? C'mon, tell us you are kidding ... please, nobody can be that ignorant ... can they? We have one of the most respected and highly trained SWAT team in the country .. I understand you could know that .. but we do. They also have a strong military background and are some of the smartest and bravest team of law enforcement members you will find. Knowing their talent, I can tell you that if they were wearing pajamas, swimsuits, jeans or 3piece suits, I would want this TEAM on the scene of such a horrific event. their response and tatical knowledge of securing a perimeter to take a victim to safety in record time is nothing short of spectaculiar. I would not be surprised if a letter of commendation comes from the White House for this team based on their last 24 hours of work. John, I can only hope you just got a speeding ticket and you are blaming the MPD for your mistake, but if you really believe your comment is on the "mark", I suggest an immediate counseling appointment with a qualified mental health worker
- Jeff K, Manchester

Thank God that SWAT can be there to help the police. The school is right there and they took every precaution necessary to keep the kids safe. It's not that the MPD can't handle it, but if that's your kid in school wouldn't you be glad that the city did everything possible to keep them safe.

Let's keep the family in our prayers. They are good people that did not deserve this.
- q, manchester

To John from Manchester: Yours is the dumbest post I have ever read on this site. Congratulations.
- Jeff Smith, Manchester

To all those people with so much wisdom, take comfort in knowing that this City has trained professionals on the scene. To those that criticize the situation and remark about patrol not being able to handle it, would you be willing to risk you life unneccessarily when a better option is available?

Domestic violence is taken very seriously by the justice system and the police, but lets remember one thing, a restraining order is only a piece of paper. Sanctions are put in place for those that violate, they are arrested within 12 hours without a warrant, somthing that doesn't happen in any other circumstance. If a derranged person sets forth a plan to kill someone, no piece of paper will prevent this.

Lets look a the facts here, 2 murders in 15 hours is dispicable. The school system needs to work on their notification plans. The mayor can only do so much with the money he has. He can't give it all to the police, we have roads that need repair and snow to be removed, as well as children to educate, trash to be removed, and fires to control.

If you have a better plan I believe the elections are coming. Funny, I didn't see that many names on the ballot. Stop whining and start acting. Become involved in your neighborhoods. Set up a watch group or get involved in school activities. Get kids involved in something other than gangs. Schools are the breeding grounds for gangs. An informed public is this City's greatest asset. Stop turning a blind eye and pointing fingers.
- Chris, Manchester

While it might be scary, it's not unusual. It happens every day. Manchester is a place that needs to realize it's not 1985 anymore. It's pretty safe, yet not as insulated from the rest of the country as it once was. NH is no more exempt from murder, rape, drugs and CORRUPTION i might add than say other New England or atlantic coast communities. Not to mention it's pretty easy to own a gun.... not necessarily for hunting. Thanks to the Federal Govt. the last 9 years for pissing away all our $$ for war in other countries rather than upgrading communities here.
- timothy, amherst

Movin to Auburn....
- J, Manchester

We all sit here and write about it,what about trying to stop all this BS that has been happening lately?We are raising our children in this messed up world.People do things that are so stupid and selfish that they ruin a childs life forever! These people have kids!!What is going on?Its sad when you can't go outside without worrying if anything is going to happen to you!I feel bad for our children who are being raised in this messed up world we live in!
- amie, manchester

I just want give a big 'Thank You' to the officers that responded to the scene. I live a few blocks away and I happened to be on Valley St. turning onto Jewett when this all happened. There were five patrol cars on the scene within seconds and they had the whole area contained and SWAT surrounding the building and block before the ambulance arrived! I am proud that the men and women of the MPD put their lives at risk every day to serve and protect their fellow citizens. We should all be proud!
For all of those who criticize and belittle - don't blame the officers if tyou don'ty like the system - they are doing the job they were tasked to do! If you want things to change, get involved and make it happen!
- Shannon, Manchester

My heart aches for the family's that have lost loved ones by this situation. We can not blame the police, the uniforms that they wear but we can blame society. No matter where you live there is crime.
- Kathy, Maine

Thank you George from Concord for your comments. It amazes me that people are concerned about what the SWAT team wears and actually have the nerve to base there qualifications on what color they are sporting today. I happen to know a SWAT member and he is highly qualified and is there to protect us regardless of the outfit. Thanks SWAT for doing your job and making every effort to protect us while putting your own life at risk .
- Jennifer, Manchester

The Mayor ran on an anti crime, pro education platform... Crimes up and teachers are down. How can you say its unfair to blame him, he's driving the ship. As for MPD, the men/women on the street do a great job (aside from many being on a cell phone as they drive). However I think its time for a change at the top. Mara is out of touch and thinks this is how a city has to be. Wake up its going down the tube.
- Mark, Manchester NH

I live 2 blocks from the first shooting on Wilson Street and 2 blocks from the 2nd shooting today. I'm scared for my children's safety. It has been a horrible 14 hours.
- Laurie, manchester

Manchester is a hole, it has been for years.
- David, Exeter

Sorry to hear all this. My heart goes out to the victims.
I agree with Liz, Manchetser is the NEW LAWERENCE. A once great city gone to....................
- G. Paul, Concord

What the heck is going on in Manchester lately? It's like living in Lowell or Lawrence Mass.
- Raz, Portsmouth

This is the reason I wish to move out of New Hampshire... Good job to MPD for trying to clean up or streets but I'm afraid they aren't doing enough.
- Frank, Laconia

What is going on with people lately?Why does everything have to revolve around violence? I feel bad for our children and the kind of world they are living in. Its sad when you cant even step outside lately without worrying if something bad is going to happen!
- amie, manchester

what is most crazy is that the women has a kids, one son who attends southside jr high. what her kids are going to have to deal with his horrible. My thoughts and prayers are with her family.
- kerri, manchester

Is no one else alarmed by the photo images of the swat team brandishing weapons with young children walking toward them on the sidewalks? What happened there??
- Mary, Manchester, NH

Domstic violence victims need to be realistic!!!! don't get a restraining order GET A GUN and learn how to use it.
- rick, Dunbarton

The women that was killed and her father are members of my extended family. What people have to remember is that a woman was killed today and her father is critically wounded from trying to protect her. This woman leaves a young child behind. I truly believe that the Manchester Police Department are doing all they can with what they have. It is obvious that we are a rapidly growing City and that the Police need more resources we as citizens of Manchester need to know what we can do to help.
- Kim, Manchester

People need to take a deep breath and stop blaming the police. All the men and women of the MPD can do is to respond to a call, they can't stop people for thinking about shooting or killing others unless they have knowledge before hand, and the last time I checked they don't carry crystal balls on the their police belts.

Other big cities have as much violence that happened in the first week than what may go on here in a year. To just have shootings and killings take place as random events is unusual.

What we all need is a bit of self respect and dignity for our actions, nothing is worth going out and trying to kill someone else.
- Jack Alex, Manchester

Guns have already been selling out you freaks.....it has nothing to do with these shootings. Also, the person crying that the end is near is over reacting as well. A couple of shhotings in one NH city and the sky is falling. Great.

You are all forgeting that people are hurt/dead. They just need well wishes. Stop the negative engergy flow and grow up.

Also.....to MHT PD...keep up the good work. Most of you are good men and women doing a very tough job. Stay safe.
- Jenn, Concord

I can’t believe the hate and how ignorant people in Manchester can be. Calling out what a S.W.A.T Team wears! Someone is watching too much TV. Instead of bashing the over worked and under paid police squad maybe you should ask yourself what I can do to help improve the City of Manchester.
- Ed, Manchester

Who cares what color they're wearing as long as they get the job done. Maybe you should volenteer to design and make their clothing for them.
- Matt, Manchester

This is not an MPD issue. This is an issue of domestic violence. These message boards are kind of funny though. One half bashes the police and the other half fawns all over them. The police in this city do a great job but lets not make them heroes. They are good people who have a tough job but by no means are they heroes just because they put on a uniform.
- Mike, Manchester

JOHN from Manchester obviously just does not like police and needed to find something negative to say. What do you consider a "real" swat team? Look around...google major swat teams through out the country and you will see many wear camo.

Yes, wearing camo, black, or any other dark color in day light probably does not make much of a difference. But at night, camo actually breaks up your silhouette. Camo can also be helpful when on a perimeter at night outside of any house (city or rural), I can list many more examples. So it only makes sense to have 1 uniform to perform for most situations rather than play a guessing game as to which color is needed and to waist money buying multiple colors to make John from Manchester happy.

You say they are wanna be's? what do u do John? Could you even pass a background check?
- George, Concord

John of Manchester, I think that you need to stop watching so many tv shows. My husband is a swat member and no ALL swat teams don't wear black. As for the others making comments, please if any of you had any information or knowledge about Domestic Violence, you would understand that the Mayor nor the Chief could have done anything to prevent this. Also people need to remember that there are issues everywhere! Including small rural towns. I wonder how all you people can make such awful comments and continue to live in this town. Are you involved in anything that would help? Or are you just the type to sit and COMPLAIN nothing is getting done?! Take some initiative!
- T, Manchester, NH

This appears to be a domestic dispute, which has nothing to do with the city, the mayor or the police chief. This is a sad and unfortunate issue, but often the police are limited in what they can do in this realm.

As for those people that said that maybe the police shouldn't have raided Three Cousins, would you have rather nothing be done? If this stirred up a hornet's nest, then fine, deal with the fallout, make arrests and make the area safer. Obviously, the raids needed to happen, precisely because there are issues in that part of the city.
- Ryan, Hooksett

No, Adam, they don't have to wear certain colors to do their jobs- they need to wear colors appropriate to the situation to avoid looking silly and reinforcing the view outside law enforcment has of the Manchester Police Dept. They're not in the jungle, nor do any of their badges read "G.I. Joe".
- Larry, Manchester

I'm with Kasey.. I live within 2 blocks in either direction of this fiasco and now I have to worry about it being in my back yard. Glad I am moving.
- Manchester Resident, Manchester

For all the people screaming about the "crime wave", exactly when was the last time this happened? I say again, compare Manchester's violent crime rate to that of any comparibly sized city - not to 1955 Manchester or to a small, affluent town - but to a modern, similar city. You'll find that it is remarkably safe.

This is incredibly unfortunate timing, especially for the victims, but how exactly were the police supposed to prevent either of these crimes? Were they supposed to ask the Oracles from Minority Report and show up just before they happened to arrest the people about to commit them? The police can't act until a crime is committed. If you want a more proactive police presence, you had also better be willing to pay for it.
- Jason, Londonderry

Unbelievable! Three people shot in less that 24 hours?!?!? I have been a resident of Manchester for 33 years and have seen a lot change, but I'm just speechless. Welcome to Lowell.
- Tim, Manchester

The people on here blaming the police for the recent shootings are out of their minds. What you're doing is equivalent to blaming the fire department for the behavior of an arsonist.
- j, manchester

I wish the police and the justice system would take it more seriously when a woman files a restraining order. Unfortunately, this happens all too often.
- L, Manchester

John in Manch, get real...SWAT teams around this and other nations use camo as do our service members fighting in urban settings around the world...and why would a swat team be called to this? I don't know, two people were shot, it's never known who is still around...The Manchester PD needs support of its public, they have been effected by this gang culture as much or more than the average manchester citizen...the best we can all do is be parents to our children, be good neighbors and hold eachother accountable, even the punks...it can't be done by the police alone!
- Steve, Laconia

My child attends Hallsville and is in the second grade, this shooting was to close to the school. Its nothing like going to pick up your child and seeing swat in your face, telling you to leave the area. Knowing that you doing that is having you leave your small child behind and have to fear for their safety. She could of been on the play ground or better yet leaving the school and this could of happened with her present.
She told me that the teacher had her get under her desk put her jacket over her head and sit there for hours. She said other students where saying where all gonna die, so she said she started to cry. Every noise they heard scared them to no end. Although she was never really in any danger and the school acted responsibly, how awful. Why should i have to explain to my child why she was under her desk for hours.
I am mad as hell, at any point in time this crazy wack job could of walked over to my childs school and hurt any one of them. Yes its was a domestic situation but desperate times for psycho's call for desperate measures, and thats a route he could of taken. Who knows holding up a school would buy this wacko several hours of being free from being in police custody.
As far as what i saw the police out there are doing great especially since there is a school a matter of yards from this incident. They are keeping this person from running into, say "the school".
What i want to know is where are those automated systems that call the parents and let them know that there is a problem. I live around the corner from the school and i knew nothing of it until i got there to pick her up. I want to know why is there nothing in place to contact parents when something bad happens? Do i have to call everyday to make sure there isnt a lock down or should maybe the manchester school district put something in place to better inform parents of such situations!
Worry, fear, desperation, nasuea, amoung many emotions and feeling pass through you when you cant get at your child and the swat team is telling you to go away, and you have no idea what is going on....All you know is your child is there and something bad happened.
- Rachael, Manchester

Hey John, I see alot more trees than I do darkness, so I think the camo is a better option. Remember, it's daylight. Please tell me what good black outfits would do? I guess I must be stupid.....they have green grass, trees, shrubs, etc to blend with. What does black camo blend well with? An Officer running around in black can't hide anywhere during the day. Please look out you're window......IT"S STILL LIGHT OUT!
- Shane, Manchester

Officers have to wear a certain color to do their jobs correctly? Last I checked you can wear any color you want and still shoot a gun if needed. Get an education John and learn to give respect where it is due. Our police force works hard and I for one am proud of them. If you are going to make statements that they are "unqualified" try referencing something other than the color of their clothing.
- Adam, Manchester

i have to say to all of you people dogging the police and the mayor.... no one can control how other people react or what they do to other people, thats pretty much impossible! and for the swat team, we should be thanking them for doing what they are doing, putting their lives on the line to protect us. i live a block away from the shooting and have 5 children, i'd rather have a camo dressed swat team at my door than a guy with a gun!!!!!
- christina, manchester

I have lived on jewett st for eight years and I have always felt safe it's sad that I have to worry about just taking my dogs out I can't wait till they catch this guy!!!!
- Morgan, Manchester

What is going on in Manchester?!? This is like a bad dream. 2 shootings in less than 15 hours? For 2 different reasons. I hope this ends soon...scary.
- Rachel, Manchester, NH

As a resident of a portion of Dix Street that I wouldn't consider to be a bad area by any means. I am very concerned about the events that have taken place less than 3 blocks in either direction from me in the past 24hrs, 1 major drug and gambling bust, 1 man gunned down and killed and to people shot and wounded.
- Kasey, Dix St, Manchester

I totally agree with Matt! How does this situation involve Mayor Guinta???

Domestic Situations happen EVERYWHERE!!!!!!!!

It is sad and its scary that all this violence has happened within the last 24 hours. None of us signed up for this!
- Wanda, Manchester, NH

So why are the police in camo. I do not see a jungle around, unless the wallpaper pattern in the building was camo pattern. I thought "real" SWAT members were to wear all black. For those officers to walk around in camo in an urban environment only proves how under trained and under qualified this wannabe SWAT is. I hope true officers who are on real SWAT teams send letters to these guys and let them know they are embarassing the name and everyone who is an officer. If you wanted to play cops and robbers you should at least look the part, way to go good ol' boys.
- John, Manchester

Light up the Bat signal commissioner. Hmm, guns and drugs. Drugs and guns. They always seem to go together. This insanity needs to stop. No wonder the price of ammo keeps going up, the bad guys seem to be consuming more ammo than the good guys.
- Joe, Manchester

Yes indeed the city is getting worse and worse by the hour! Shootings, drug raids, drunk drivers, rapes, armed robbery with violent force, I can go on and on but I'm sure you've gotten the picture of Lawrence --oh I mean Manchester by now.
Thank you Mayor for all your help in this matter. I'm sure your for sale sign will be on your lawn before your time is up at City Hall.
- Griffin Stewart, Manchester NH

In this situation, a husband chose to shoot his wife and her father. How can the Mayor be blamed for that? Manchester still is and will always be a great place to live. How quickly we forget about what happened in the very small town of Mt Vernon a couple of weeks back. Crime happens everywhere. If you don't like NH or Manchester, no one is stopping you from leaving except yourself.
- Matt, Manchester

why do you need a swat team at a domestic shooting where the shooter fled? do manchester street cops handle anything?
- kyle, concord

I was in school. MMHS and we got an annoucement saying that we need to go into a lock down and we did. After we could leave they told us for the walker/brikers if we want to call home for a ride.
- Anonymous, Manchester

Hell has been unleashed upon earth. It is up to us to help ourselves and to protect the things we hold dear to us. Start praying for a better day cuase that is all we can do. It has begun.
- victoria, manchester

Two shootings in less than 24 hours.
Can we now at least change that dumb nickname (ManchVegas) to what it really should be: New Lawrence?!
- Liz Ardo, Manchester

Maybe that raid wasn't a good idea. 2 shootings today. 1 murder last night?
All the rats fleeing 3 Cousins w/ no where to go?? Now you've got a real problem Frank. Can't set a trap for every rat.
- DanP, Manchester

If the chief lived in the city then these murders could have been prevented
- Joe, Manchester

I fail to see how the mayor could prevent a distraught husband from going nuts and shooting his wife and father in law. Nor is it the fault of Chief Mara or the "nice place to live" NH used to be.
They can fight crime, they can fight drugs, but a domestic incident is a domestic incident, this guy is no doubt going through the worst day of his life, and he has obviously done the worst thing he could possibly do. Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to stick up for the guy, I just want you to understand this doesn't have anything to do with Manchesters crime rate.
- Dan, Epping

Gun stores are selling out thanks to MPDs failure
- Mark, Manchester NH

Hope the victims are going to be okay!
- Brian Griffin, Manchester

This has nothing to do with 3 cousins, or last nights shootings.
- A Friend, Goffstown

I cannot believe the rate of the cities crime is growing. Something needs to be done!
- Tom, Manchester

Domestic violence crimes are not ones the city can crack down on, they are totally different from drug related crimes, gang related crimes, etc. This is not the city's fault and this happens in this country all the time in cities, affluent suburbs, rural communities and everything in between. NH, and Manchester, have an extremely low murder and rape rate still today. Put things in perspective people.
- Wendy, Manchester

This is a domestic dispute - this happens everywhere - not in the same caliber as drugs and gangs and random murder. I am NOT diminshing domestic violence jut that it happens in small towns as well and has no income levels attached to it. I have been a victim of domestic violence and I live in a small town and am Upper Middle Class. So this is not a reason to trash Manchester though crime seems to be climbing there.
- Maggie, Epping

Wow, Manchester is seriously spinning out of control with crime. I guess yesterday's police action didn't do much to suppress what is going on in this city. With the economy what it is, I am afraid the violence is just going to get worse.
- Chris, Nashua

Hey Anonymous, NH is still a nice place to live - but Manchester is quickly turning into a ghetto full of gangs, drugs, and violence.
- Tom, Hooksett

This city is getting worse and worse, not by the day, by the hour! Who will clean up this city. Drugs, gangs, murder, violent crimes.....
- Doug, Manchester, NH

Dear Mayor Guinta:
Please show up for work tomorrow and get busy on the crime problem. You promised to fix this two years ago. Where have you been? Or is your push for a "tax cap" your way of fighting crime?
- Mike, Manchester

2 shootings in less than 24 hours!

Here we go.
- Ben, Manchester

I hope not only that the officers responding stay safe and go home to their families but I truly hope that these two victims are not seriously injured and are going to be okay. This sounds like a tragic situation and let everybody hope for the best, for both sides.
- Tonya Ferrara, Manchester NH

What is this state coming to? I thought NH was a nice place to live, but in the past year it has taken a serious downhill trip to hell. In the 15 yrs since I moved here I have never seen so much murder and rape in the news; did I get transported to a larger city where this is normal without my knowledge?
- Anonymous, Manchester