Fight victim 'got along with everybody'
By GARRY RAYNO
New Hampshire Union Leader Staff
Sunday, Jun. 17, 2007
Ryan Carlson was found severely beaten in an alley off Franklin Street near the Verizon Wireless Arena around 8:30 p.m. Thursday. He died Friday at Massachusetts General Hospital, never having regained consciousness.
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- Bea B., Campton, NH
- N. Lynch, S. Royalton, VT
- Becky D., Derry NH
- Mary Mullavey, Northfield NH
- Jeanne, Manchester, NH
- Danielle Adams, Londonderry, NH
- Carrie Mandeville, Manchester NH
- J. Lalmond, Windham, NH
These kids were not "goody-two-shoes" but kids with a difficult history and probably a fractured home life. I would venture to guess that most of them have already had sex and been exposed to drugs. They need guidance in how to cope with the real world, the one they inhabit, not the mythical one inhabited by Dick, Jane and Spot, and directions for how to escape it. The YMCA program sounds like a well-conceived program that offers much beyond the conventional academics for kids who need much beyond academics NOW and not tomorrow.
As for Planned Parenthood, at a typical clinic abortions account for fewer than 5% of patients and patients visits. . . . All clinics also depend on a large number of volunteers, without which they couldn't afford to operate.
How do I know this? I'm a long time escort at a Planned Parenthood clinic (meaning I shield patients and their companions from harassment, intimidation and lying by protesters) and I serve on the board of the local Planned Parenthood clinic.
- Keanus, Birdsboro PA
- Theresa Davis, Manchester, NH
- Bob Moore, Hooksett, NH
Just from reading this short news (?)story we know few facts as of yet, other than: there are school officials playing CYA, lawyers looking at billable hours and politicians are wanting a sound bite on national television.
The bottom line is, Were permission slips signed by the parents? Did they list the the agencies they would be visiting that day? Were the parents kept informed of all stops? If so, then your stance on abortion means nothing here. The parents of the children were either 100% behind the field trip or not. If the children were taken off school grounds without parental permission then the school board needs to get involved. If they had permission, then please worry about the school budget, the safety and the education of your students and not what they think of you on CNN.
In the mean time it is simply a lot of hot air and accusations being tossed around by both sides. As a parent I have the right to keep my child informed of any issue I see fit. What my neighbor chooses for their child is THEIR business and not mine.
- carol ann peddle, londonderry nh
- Lisa, Bedford
- K Paquette, Bedford, NH
You have obviously never been to a Planned Parenthood clinic and had to pass through lines of "protesters" shoving pictures of mutilated embryos in your face JUST so you could get PAP smears and birth control you could afford because you don't have health insurance. I have had to endure that, and I stand by my original statement. Those people accosted the children. They could have let them pass by without doing that, but they were incapable of it because they are lowlifes. I personally do not endorse abortion, but I will not stand by and see people try to prevent others from seeking basic healthcare services without "calling them as I see them."
P.S. This is local newspaper. Go away.
- Donna Schmidt, Manchester, NH
- JR, Loudon, NH
I am a former inner city middle school teacher. When the public schools can successfully guarantee that all 8th graders can write just five consecutive sentences describing - say - what the child had for breakfast - and do so with perfect spelling, grammar and punctuation - they have no business taking the students to an organization founded by one of the primary proponents of eugenics.
I can virtually guarantee you that neither the Manchester schools, nor any public 8th grade school in the country can produce an entire 8th grade that can pass the test I've just described.
Tell them to stick with what they as teachers already BARELY know and perfect it: i.e. the teaching of English.
Jim Anderson
- Jim Anderson, East Walpole, MA.
No one notices that this is a group of AT RISK kids -
No one notices that the kids visited the OFFICES , not the clinic- nor that this was part of a tour of several social service agencies.
I suppose they'd all rather the kids went and figured out how to get TANF, counseling, Birth Control, STD testing, and Food Stamps on their own, after the risks in the their lives add them to the welfare rolls.
- Kit Hosley, Tulsa Oklahoma
“I was required to attend a field trip to a church, despite my belief as an atheist that religion is the major cause of most of the violence and problems of intolerance in the world”
The biggest mass murderer of all time was the atheistic philosophy of communism. Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot – each of them by themselves - racked up more corpses than the religious conflicts combined.
- Taora, New York City
the politics in your area of the country. The folks in the YMCA are absolute hillbillies! No, you don't take bright middle-schoolers to a Planned Parenthood shop. The kids aren't dumb, they know they're being brainwashed. The folks running the YMCA program are the ones that don't "get it." The kids in Manchester are smarter than their hippie-dippie 60's parents and/or YMCA program people (Thank God!) Keep it up; Manchester, NH! The rest of the United States loves a good belly-laugh!
- Lon, Hudson OH
- Amber Parsons, El Dorado Hills, CA
- Michele, Spokane
- Kris, Portsmouth, NH
We need to stop complaining and take our schools back.
- Kim Kelley, Erie, CO
- Dawn Ashley, Morgantown, WV
- Michael Bellefeuille, Bedford, NH
- Chris Colgrove, Huntington Beach
And the organization aborted 138 babies for every adoption referral to an outside agency.
Planned Parenthood provides contraception and kills babies. Period.
If a parent wants to expose his/her child to Planned Parenthood, then so be it. But the school department and the YMCA have no business trying to indoctrinate the children they are entrusted with.
- Lori Ann Ball, Warwick, RI
- Mia Jamia, Bedford, NH
A: "Planned Parenthood" is code for Abortion Clinic
B: WOW, people who want to fight to allow unborn babies to live are lowlifes? You are so confused.
So people who kill and vacuum out babies are good and those of us who think it should be illegal to kill unborns are lowlifes? God help you.
- Jon Fairfield, Louisville, KY
Also, to the author who compared Manchester to Romania...wow. What a ridiculous analogy. Apparently you haven't been exposed to the INCREDIBLY LONG lines of parents in America waiting to adopt children. But, you push the liberal tendency too far which is to claim that if anyone stands up for any moral stance that conflicts with yours, we will immediately turn into a fascist regime. Its nonsensica and illogical.
- Aldrich, London
- Mike Ball, Manchester, NH
I DO think, however, that they should have skipped this particular trip when they were informed there would be protesters outside. There was no reason to subject the kids to those lowlifes.
- Donna Schmidt, Manchester, NH
- Kathy Henry, Amherst, NH
- Natalie Scott, Formerly of Manchester
How about teaching them morals so they can avoid NEEDING an abortion?
- Don Hank, Wrightsville
They help many young people so a abortion does not become a issue. If all they believed in was abortions they wouldn't be educating people on birth control.
- Laurie Frye, Allenstown
- Caryn Greenberg, Los Angeles
- keith belcourt, santa rosa beach, fl.
- MikeValli, Arlington VA
- John Montgomery, Essex Junction, Vermont
When the person in charge of the school is responsible.
You see womwn can not have it both way, demand equality and respect, then ask for understanding because " I was flustered by a reporters phone call". If she get's flustered by a phone call, then imagine how she would handle a terror situation, or an emergency.
perhaps this will make some people in this state wake up, and see that these people we have abdicated our parental duties to, could care less about these children.
As long as they can get their six to seven months a year off, teach our kids that America sucks and it's ok to have two mommies public education is fine, but if you want good old fashion morals reading, writting and math skills. well that's another thing.
What's next field trips to whore houses.
Let's wake up New Hampshire, and let's do what we shoud have done a long time ago, run all these scum bag socialists from our state back to mass where they belong
- chuck kroll, manchester
- Elizabeth Jordan, Dallas, TX
- Robert Morrison, Newtown, PA
- Sue Dill, Manchester
- Chi Vikos, Irvine, CA
In addition to this, maybe the YMCA can provide an after school alcohol party for all the 12 and 13 year olds who are bound to drink alcohol. You know, the AT RISK KIDS!! After all, they have no hope of turning down alcohol, so why not provide them the safe atmosphere to get blasted in??
Has the YMCA and Manchester school administrators lost all sense of logic? It's like the inmates are now running the jail!
- T. G. Rowing, Manchester, NH
- Alan Welles, Lawrence, Kansas
The teacher was not just a teacher but a friend. That program helped me out alot. I'm not totally sure about going to planned parenthood was ok but look at our society today. How many little girls do need their help. Maybe it was good to know they can have help.
That program is very benificial towards teens and issues they may come against.
- nicole, manchester Nh
Kruse is obviously seeing what many parents see....something just isn't right with these ever changing stories and excuses about a field trip to an abortion mill called a JOB FAIR!
What at risk kids need is, an adult who tells them they have MORE value than what Planned Parenthood thinks of kids.
They happily accept boys using girls as objects. THey happily accept girls believing their self worth is tied up in their sexuality. They simply hand them birth control and if that fails, they accept their hundreds of dollars to kill off their baby.
It's a win/win situation for Planned Parenthood and I'm sure they couldn't be happier that they have Manchester school officials willing to bring in new customers for their abortion business.
Planned parenthood doesn't need a marketing scheme, they have Manchester school officials willing to do their dirty work for them.
- Ann Marie Banfield, Bedford, NH
Bravo to Doug Kruse who can see the obvious problems with a school administrator who can't keep her story straight.
Parents deserve more than a school administration who is so willingly ready to give up on the youth. Cart them off to an abortion mill and hand them out condoms like candy because they have no hope of ever having something called self worth.
How sad for the Manchester students and parents who have to entrust their children to adults who continue to hold such low standards for these kids!
- Sandy Kremblin, Manchester, NH
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