Marijuana in Keene: On town square, at city hall
By MELANIE PLENDA
Union Leader Correspondent
Thursday, Sep. 24, 2009
As city councilors debate a resolution to decriminaliization of small amounts of marijuana, a group has begun lighting up on Central Square.
►Correspondent Melanie Plenda reports that yesterday's crowd of 30 grew to about 80 today; police made no arrests. Look for a full story tomorrow.
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Those who attempt to dictate what peaceful people do are the cause of most of the world's problems.
YOU own YOU. I own ME. It's pretty simple.
- Bob C, Grafton
It's okay for same sex marriage.
It's not socially acceptable to live an average life and relieve stress after a hard day of work. Nope.
If you're one of "those" you want to go ahead and hide under your bed!
- J, concord
- Ben, danville NH
I happen to believe this is all about money. Illegal weed makes more money that legal weed. Who would buy it if they could grow it? Illegal importing will decline, if not shut down, and much more crime would be removed by stopping the drug cartels than the stupid kid who had a roach in his ashtray. Think about where it comes from. Legalization does just this.
- Ian, Bedford
The point about smoking in public, in central square, is that we're not legally allowed to smoke in our homes, we're not legally allowed to own the plant. And so, to make a point, we're doing it right where everyone can see us.
And to all those who are not in Keene, you really have no say on what kind of impact we're making on the town. To my knowledge, business is as usual in downtown Keene, maybe even more so with all the people actually using the square. Before, there was maybe a few meandering souls walking through, but nobody actually using it.
My other point is that we are being COMPLETELY civil about this. The police have been kind enough to stay away, and we are extending some civility to them by smoking peacefully.
The only way to get this to the people, is to bring it to the people. In all our history, I've never heard of a law being passed because of folks sitting on their couches in private and doing what they want. First, they have to tell people about it, and if that doesn't work, show them that we CAN smoke peacefully and without violence.
If you think otherwise, come on down and talk to us, we're good guys really, no one here is trying to take New Hampshire away (considering most of us are Keene residents, and have been for a long long time).
- Zack, Keene, NH
the wrong on harsh marijuana laws... I don't get it?? I am 49 years old whom has worked full time ever since I smoked herb for the first time at age 16. It truly motivated me to get
a steady pay check so that I could buy my herb (long story short...)and enjoy my life.
So I smoke marijuana almost everyday, I have raised a family of 4, they are great assets to the generation, they where raised to enjoy life and respect others. I have worked hard making a successful small business that is almost 20 years old. I have paid off my mortgage early. I help others in need, We donate where we can and once again I smoke pot.I am your neighbor whom you want to move next to, here in New Hampshire or anywhere.You may now put another face on a typical Marijuana Smoker.
In my opinion Marijuana worst consequence for me is running the risk of being Hand Cuffed, Arrested and then Judged for something I enjoy doing peacefully in MY life.
Please at the very least let those suffering, who find aid in en-jesting Marijuana alone with
THERE life's and there Family's.
Near buy states like Maine, Rhode Island and Vermont, have Medical marijuana laws enacted. Is there motto "Live free or Die" or Is it ours?
Overide Veto October 28
...Oh yea, lots of us Vote also..... O-~
- Jah, Wolfboro
I am a veteran, and smoked when in SE Asia, everyday, as did the locals. I am still here, not sick, have a job, a family, and a home. And I still smoke! The price has gone up, and so has the quality. Who knows, maybe sometime in the future, STONEWALL farm might start being a medicinal grower, and be called, STONEWELL farm. LOL
- 420-55yrold man, Keene
Jean Coutu, caacp01@aol.com
CAACP & LFOD Rally
- Jean Coutu, Jaffrey NH
Free Staters: I hear Wyoming is freer than New Hampshire. Please move there. We'll help you pack.
- James T., Manchester
- Sean, Keene
@ Ace in Keene~ LOLOLOLOLOL, so true!! Just hard to explain to young kids what these LOSERS are doing!
Poor downtown businesses are being hurt by this crap. Nake poeple with guns, now bongs & joints and weed smells, what is next?!?!? Keep my kids far away from Downtown Keene! DOwntown businesses should start pressuring KPD & City Counsel to stop the insanity!
- Jennifer, Keene
I feel bad for the downtown businesses, the Free Staters are always causing disruptions downtown, first disrupting court proceedings, then there was the gun protest and now 80 people standing downtown smoking marijuana. Granted some are smoking tobacco and pretending it to be pot but many are smoking the real thing in bongs and "joints". Many parents avoid downtown in the afternoons because they don't want their kids to see poeple using drugs or see naked people carrying guns, what parents want their young kids to see this and have to explain this illegal and disruptive behavior? Businesses downtown already struggle in this economy and now they are hurt by the Free Staters. Free Staters need to stop wasting tax dollars and become contributing members of this democracy!
Free Staters want to move 20,000 into the State well many are moving out because of the Free Staters.
- Nunya Beezwax, Keene
And while there is absolutely nothing wrong with never taking a drink or 'toking some hash dude', there is also nothing wrong with taking a drink or 'toking some hash dude'. We are neither an Amish nor a Puritan nation, nor should we be. The lowest common denominator is not the drunk or stoned, for they will always sober up. It is the fearful and ignorant for they refuse to open their minds and their hearts.
- JB, NB, NH
If these marijuana junkies want legalized drugs they can more to the Netherlands or South America and live off someone else’s welfare dole, not mine. What we need is for intellectuals and bloggers to stop aiding and abetting the enemy (dealers) with these pathetic rationalizations and come out with stronger temperance, personal responsibility, anti-drunkenness, anti-dope, and sobriety message. There is nothing wrong with being a teetotaler, and nothing wrong with never toking hash dude...
Enforcement of small drug infractions is at law enforcement’s discretion. Numerous studies have shown that enforcement of minor infractions discourage bigger and more expensive to enforce infractions. Leave it be.
- Jim, Manchester
I'm no pied piper of pot Tom, I'm your neighbor. I'm your brother. I'm the guy that will help jump start your car or push you out of a snowbank when you get stuck. I'm the guy that goes out of his way to help others, and in this case, help others educate themselves properly. I'm the guy that will cover your shift when you call in sick.
Try as you might, you can't hold back the tide of knowledge. Spain, Portugal, Argentina are all nation states with successful decriminalization efforts. Mexico has followed and soon California will take the next step towards ending the war on a plant, the war on Americans and the war on Truth.
By the way--I look forward to hearing your bleating when you find out how many pharmaceutical firms are working with Cannabis BECAUSE of its multitude of benficial compounds.
- Howard Marks, Concord, NH
- Tom, Manchester
I am not a smoker or a drinker of any sort, BUT I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT THE GOV'T SHOULD TELL US WHAT TO DO WITH OUR BODIES. Let each person decide for himself.
- Meguira, Keene
I can understand that some people know others who smoke pot and are hard working Americans supporting their family and paying taxes ect ect.
However, from the outside looking in, they have some serious issues. All the adults I've ever met that smoke pot have issues within their relationships because of a spouse not smoking pot and their kids making references, or the financial fact of being a drug user in these hard times.
I don't want to hear one person complain about healthcare costs or gas prices if they can turn around and buy weed.
There are plenty of ways weed is harmful and not everyone is a responsible smoker like some of you claim you know.
Oddly enough though everyone I know that claims nothing is wrong with them...there are thing wrong with them...and the same sort of things with their friends who do the same thing. The only reason they dont' think the other is in harms way is because they're both in the same situation and know no better.
- Lori, Derry
"There are 100,000 total marijuana smokers in the US, and most are Negroes, Hispanics, Filipinos and entertainers. Their Satanic music, jazz and swing, result from marijuana usage. This marijuana causes white women to seek sexual relations with Negroes, entertainers and any others."
Errr...yeah, never mind.
- SHJ, Lebanon
For the record, I am on the "decriminalize, regulate, and tax" side of the issue. Let's treat marijuana like alcohol. For those who want to use it, it is possible to use responsibly, while non-responsible users should be prosecuted like non-responsible drinkers/phone users/eating-while-driving folks. Let's put the resources of our tax dollars toward dealing with important issues by decriminalizing personal use/possession of marijuana, and regulate and tax it appropriately if it becomes legal. There are successful examples of this around the world.
Rational discussion will get us a lot further than name calling (on both sides) and spinning stories about the end of civil society due to a joint.
- Kane, Manchester
- Mitch, Las Vegas, NV
Oh wait we have alcohol...
- Ryan, PA
- Jean, Salem
- Hal W, Meredith
Howard Marks, you are tenacious! And for the most part I concur. I know many professionals, parents, voters, volunteers, churchgoers et al, who partake. In 50 years, I've never ever met a belligerent pothead, but have met many a nasty drunk. And some folks, who really should consider smoking it, as it probably would vastly improve their personality! Keep the faith!
- Patrick, Derry
In 50 years you NEVER EVER met a belligerent pothead. Meet Howard Marks. Howard, if you are this powerful worldly man you say you are, just think what you could have been straight. Patrick, pot doesn't change anyone's personality, it just changes how YOU see it. And yes, that is from experience.
- Allan, Rochester
Let's cut the baloney here. I am not an advocate of hard drug use but I do know when something is a poor investment of time and money, and I'm not talking about GM stock either. It's this phoney War on Drugs. The most sobering fact I have encountered is that we cannot even keep this stuff out of prisons, so how can we realistically keep this stuff off of the streets? The plain truth is that we cannot. This moral panic over a little cannabis is getting out of hand and I normally wouldn't care but we really are wasting millions of dollars on drug prohibition. Given the frugal nature of the Granite State I find it ironic that so many people blindly support the War on Drugs without questioning its effectiveness. The bottom line is that people will use drugs regardless of their legality so let them do as they will. Live FREE or Die.
- Patrick, Manchester
- Patrick, Derry
- John Croteau, Candia
also: jason hart is his real name. he just lied about going to FPU.
- cassidy, keene
- DM, Hampton
Given comparative life styles and risk factors, I am up to the task, and it sounds like many more are, to keeping any such foolish proposed legislation shut out from passing, i.e. legalizing marijuana. Check the degradation out that occurs to nations that have similarly legalized illegal drug use--starting with marijuana. No more quality of life-divaint behavior rules.
Having worked in for two law enforcement agencies, I know they get fact sheets on various illegal agents and legitmate criminal profiling. They are aware of the facts--and don't promote legalizing marijuana use. Individual officers sometmes do when their son, daughter, grandchild, or close friend cannot get a law enforcement job because of their use of the illegal drug.
I hope some of you who think this is such a good idea, check in ten years from now and twenty years from now and tell how marijuana helped you succeed in this life since you think it is an essential cornerstone and building block for your life at this point. I would hope to learn that Like those who have come before me, worked with me, and will come after me, would love to learn our services are no longer needed and our historical knowledge is no longer applicable because you all turned into the most responsbile citizens the USA has ever known--kind of like you are now the most responsible and excelrated students at Keene.
- Jan, Londonderry, NH
"and I take it quite personally when my safety and security is threatened by ignorance and propaganda. I am tired of the loud and ignorant few dictating how I should live my life"
Explain something to me. It would make sense to me that the only political support you'll get in legalizing pot is from liberals (not exclusively, but generally).
On the other hand, they ARE the "loud and ignorant few dictating how I should live my life". I'm curious how you lean politically. For example, do you support the right to bear arms?
And, why on earth, if you have smoked with such dignitaries, would you blurt that out on the internet using your name, which basically would "out" them?
I disagree with the notion of legalization, but I like your passion and honesty.
And I'll also add that it is ridiculous to claim that not one person has ever died due to marijuana use.
- DF, Candia
- Steve B, Derry
- Brian, Farmington
If you get busted kiddo, wait till you see how many of these people behind you, are no longer around, while you stand in a court of law and get fined. Protest, sure, get a sign and carry it around. Smoke in public, Pay the piper. guaranteed.
- Bob, Far up north
- Bill, Andover
- Scott, Hooksett
This is an outrage -- who do these potheads think they are? Acting like the free people their ancestors once were..
- outs, not, NH
- Mike, Manchester
Whatever happened to "Live free or die!"? Who owns your body? Some rule makers in a legislature, or YOU?
Anybody over 21 years old may acquire a religious 'defense to prosecution' for private Cannabis cultivation and personal use; it's guaranteed in every state Constitution as religious freedom and our Ministry helps people to build them and use them effectively.
Getting high is a spiritual activity. Most all churches call God, the Most High. People like to 'get high' for a good reason; to connect with the Most High. It's basic human nature to do so and it's Constitutionally protected by the sworn oath of every law enforcer in the nation.
All the best to everyone,
Roger Christie, Founder
THC Ministry
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- Roger Christie, Hilo, Kingdom of Hawai'i
- james, manchester
1.) This is a discussion on the legalization of marijuana. NOT god.
2.)Until they legalize it, we are going to continue to advertise it.
A majority of people smoke it. It's not going anywhere.
- courtney, concord
As for the guy in Dover--Cannabis is NOT addictive. Repeating a lie does not make it true.
And in terms of the number of posts I've made--what does that matter--I'm a software engineer sitting in front of a high speed network and multiple monitors--and I take it quite personally when my safety and security is threatened by ignorance and propaganda. I am tired of the loud and ignorant few dictating how I should live my life. You don't like Cannabis? Then YOU don't smoke it. Me?
- Howard Marks, Concord, NH
- Sarah, Nashua, NH
Maybe God does indeed want us to get high. By the way. If there are receptors such as this God created them, they didn't evolve. And that I am 100% positive of.
Anyway, I prefer to stay away from things that are illegal, thus not having to worry about the police catching me doing something I could go to jail or pay fines for. Alcohol is legal and as long as I don't drive while under the influence then I'm all set. And when my son does see me drinking a beer I don't have to explain that it's ok to break the law.
As far as law makers or police smoking pot it doesn't say much for their integrity. If they can't be trusted to follow the laws then how can we trust them to enforce the laws or make them.
- Bill, Dunbarton
- steveo, east andover
Very few people who do drugs have never drank Coca Cola and NONE have never breathed air. Therefore, according to that logic, Coca Cola and Air are gateway substances.
Personally, I wouldn't use it but it's definitely less harmful than alcohol or cigarettes.
- Shawn, MIlton, NH
And give me a break. I spent 4 years at UNH, and you think everyone I went to school with there knew where their drugs were grown? You've got to be kidding me! Get a clue. I only buy drugs made local in NH! They are organic at that!
Of course people can drink and smoke and have it not run their lives. However I know MANY people that put pot as #1 in their life, over paying rent, bills, etc. Anyone who says it isn't addicting has never met anyone addicted to the stuff.
- John, Dover
- courtney, concord
- Dan, Manchester
- Sid V, Plano TX
- Gary, Berlin
- JB, NB, NH
I believe that people need to separate marijuana in their discussion from other more addictive drugs. I class pot as less dangerous than alcohol and only slightly worse than tobacco, caffeine and sugar. I do not believe it is a gateway drug. Cost and availability seem to cause the gate to open to other substances. I believe that the money spent prosecuting and incarcerating users and abusers should be spent treating their medical condition.
I believe everyone should save their seeds and spread them everywhere. When pot became illegal, the most difficult problem was locating and burning all the fields. What would happen if it grew everywhere? And yes, even older, pre-1930's government literature included details on growing and utilizing cannabis. It was a huge cash crop as well as grown in every garden. It was used for nausea, gas, to calm nervous conditions and to aid digestion. Many home remedies contained crushed leaves and tinctures were prepared from seeds, stems and roots.
The reason there are few statistics regarding health effects is no one wants to admit they are users so it is difficult to correlate use to specific diseases. The reason law-breakers have pot in their blood could be that '1 in 3' statistic someone else quoted. If pot were legal, maybe some of these questions would be answered.
Still laughing.
- Mari, Mont Vernon
- Jan, Londonderry, NH
I dare you to try to talk to a pothead for ten minutes before they mention pot, legalizing, or the benefits of hemp.
Actually, it'd be in the Obama administration's interest to legalize it. Just like "Soma" in Brave New World, they need some way to keep the voters stupid and happy instead of angry because they're paying attention.
- Mike R., Bedford
and you are paying to jail thousands of stoners. I have smoked for forty years
and I will smoke for another forty if I can. Wake up and smell the weed it is in 6 out of 10 houses in america you are out numbered and sheltered get a life and you will see it all over the place. Anyone who leaves the house will see pot within a month. I really don't care if it gets legalized or not I have never in 40 years not been able to get it within an hour. Open your eyes. Oh don't let me forget to mention, I ran the Boston Marathon after smoking a joint " yeah it does so much damage to your cardiovascular system. For those of you against it get a clue for those of you for it god bless America the land of the free.
- Fred, Hillsboro
It isn't researched to it's fullest extent because Big Pharm has too much to lose. As always, just follow the money.
- Tim K, Jaffrey
- Mike, Hampton
If Marijuana was better than prescription meds, it would already have been in full fledge use in the medical community. They still use morphine, for instance, which is illegal outside of the medical community. If it really was a cure-all, it would have been investigated and applied to the masses. It is getting noticed now because people are pushing for it so hard - but who are we to say that something is better than what is already what is given just because we think it is better?! Yes, there are applications where it seems as if we would benefit, but all that I'm saying is that if it was truly better than what is available then why hasn't it been in mainstream use, being prescribed in pill or injection form from doctors!!!
- Bryan S, Aspen, CO
- Steve B, Derry
- Henri, Milford NH
Yes, if you even DRINK you are a damn hypocrite. Pot is way, way less harmful.
- Jennifer, Brookline
I haven't read through all the comments, but I'm sure that somewhere here is someone arguing that the money goes to terrorist or some garbage like that. If it was (and I don't believe it does), then legalization would take the money out of their hands and keep it here in the US.
- mike, Manchester NH
- Tom, Dover-Foxcroft, Me.
*** Editor's note: You are correct. ***
- myfakename, Keene
read what you wrote...here is what you said......But don't legalize a bad habit,
Is tobacco and Alcohol not a bad habit? I also wanted to point out that Howard is right. Humans, and reptiles have the Cannabinoid receptors. Bill you need to DO RESEARCH before you make false, and silly stupid statements.
- Chris, Manchester
Nothing says respecting someone's liberty like putting them in a cage for possessing a plant.
- Bradley Jardis, Hooksett, NH
- DCF, Laconia
The federal government should legalize, regulate, and tax the sale of marijuana for people who are at least 18 years old. Most non violent drug offenders should be released from prison to make more room for violent criminals.
Cancer patients should be allowed to smoke medical marijuana which is safer and more effective than many prescription drugs that are known to kill people.
The federal government should allow farmers to grow hemp. Hemp may be used for food, paper, clothing, and many other things. Many farmers may be more successful. Our country may be able to reduce farm subsidies.
- Ken Stremsky, Manchester, NH
Well founded concern. That is exactly how alcohol is treated...
- Jeff, Manchester
Don't believe me, ask the NIH - or ask Bob Marley.
- Tom, Campton
- Jared, Manchester
- tracy, manchester
- Jason, Londonderry
Keep the bong warm for me Howie.
- Ben, Manchester
Cannabinoid receptors evolved in the brain? Where do you get your information? And I suppose that the fingers evolved to hold a joint? Did special receptors evolve in the brain to enjoy alcohol?
What are you on anyway? Oh, I forgot.
- Bill, Dunbarton
I say all the power to the pot smokers. Do what you may. But don't legalize a bad habit. Keep your denigrating life to yourself.
- Bill, Dunbarton
My opinion stated, I think legalizing marijuana is the right thing to do. Making marijuana use a crime, while at the same time having State sponsored liquor stores is nothing but total hypocrisy.
If people want to use and abuse drugs, laws are not going to stop them. Focus on recovery and prevention efforts. To the extent that someone commits a crime while high, well then prosecute that crime. No need to fill the jails with people simply possessing a small bag of weed or a few pills. It is counter productive and does nothing to help soceity.
- Chris, Keene
While no one wants to be arrested, all activists have to be prepared for that possibility, or else when they are confronted by the law enforcers, they will always back down.
When they are arrested, and refuse to do community (slave) service work, or pay fines, I will laugh at the self righteous prohibitionists who whine that their tax money is being wasted, because if they would simply leave pot smokers alone, no tax money would be wasted.
Pot smokers are harmed more from being abruptly arrested, and losing their job, not from smoking, but from being forcibly detained and not being able to call out, or give leave to their employer.
- David K, Keene
- Tim, Swanzey
Legalize it.
- Sean, Manchester
TOBACCO ........................ 400,000
ALCOHOL ........................ 100,000
ALL LEGAL DRUGS .............20,000
ALL ILLEGAL DRUGS ..........15,000
CAFFEINE .........................2,000
ASPIRIN ...........................500
MARIJUANA ...................... 0
Now if you wanna argue that the Mexican's are dieing and there police are affraid. Then legalize marijuana and that violence will stop. You can reproduce plants quicker to make HEMP rope which is stronger then any other rope out there. you can make paper out of hemp, you can tax all products of Marijuana and Hemp. You can make clothes out of it. All of which creates jobs for those people out there on unemployment and who are having a hard time finding a job in this economy.
- Joey G, Manchester
- Howard Marks, Concord, NH
Why should we follow laws if they don't have to?
- Dave Sims, Derry
This rationale behind marujuana and all drug prohibition is one near and dear to liberal hearts: shared responsibility. Yes, the same words now found in everyone of the proposed healthcare bills has been growing like an unseen cancer in these United States, including New Hampshire. If instead we had personal responsibility, marijuana would not be a problem, either financially or criminally.
Anyone who uses illegal drugs could cost taxpayers significant money, though the war on Americans with drugs, incarceration, rehabilitation and many more each of you can think of. All of these are shared responsibility values. Each of us individually needs to be responsible. Then if someone is negatively affected by marijuana or any other drug, it is their problem as a result of a choice they made. If the looney left gets their national socialist healthcare wishes it is similarly in the best interest "of the people" to outlaw alcohol, tobacco and sugary foods. Anyone ever hear of freedom or liberty? It means allowing others to do as THEY choose even when you disagree as long as it doesn't cost you money or harm you. In this case, taking away the ability to choose, costs everyone of us dearly.
- Michael Layon, Derry
1. Many are right, pot has not killed ONE person. Alcohol killed my father, at 39.
2. I know millionaires who have smoked ALL their lives, daily. Many who don't get out in this world or who have a blind fold on constantly don't realize just WHO does smoke pot. I know people being treated for depression, who got NO WHERE with LEGAL antidepressants, who now smoke pot, with NO antidepressants, and are doing better than they have in YEARS.
I personally don't smoke it. I did years ago, never got into fights, never got into trouble and if I were told "you can pick one thing your child can do (who by the way are both over 18) it's pot or alcohol, which would you prefer....I would say 100% pot. It's not addictive, it doesn't make people violent.
The drug war money is being spent on a harmless weed, that grows NATURALLY, when all that money SHOULD be spent on getting the
Crack
Cocaine
Meth
Vicodin (legal)
Oxy (legal)
and what ever else is out there OFF the streets. THOSE are the drugs killing people, those are the drugs ruining marriages (my BF lost her marriage to her pain killer addicted husband, who's doctor has YET to stop prescribing it after 3 years)
Wake up
Get the facts
Pot is more harmless than anything else out there, heck....even cough syrup!
- m1e1b1s1, Claremont, nh
It's time to stop punishing people for victimless crimes. Legalize Cannabis, regulate its cultivation and usage, and educate PROPERLY.
- Howard Marks, Concord, NH
- Crystal, Keene NH
What they are doing in Keene is nothing new. In the mid 70's "Classical Steps" at Central High was in a daily cloud of pot smoke. (I was always so relaxed in Geometry class on breezy days.) Many highly functioning and highly respected adults sat on those steps as students.
I agree with Harry, we've lost enough in tax revenue. We need to reduce the deficit. Why let the dealers get rich with out taxation.
I have no idea of what people pay now, but I'm sure it's more than $20 an OZ. A pack of cigarettes cost $7 and people still pay it. Why should society judge how people ruin thier bodies and minds? That is their problem. I just say Tax it!
- Kat, Raymond
Alcohol is not the problem, abuse of it is. I enjoy a cold beer for the taste, not to get drunk, I'd get on with my life it alcohol wasn't legal. People smoke weed to get HIGH.
And the statement of not wanting to ruin a 17 year old's one bad moment of indiscretion, well I don't think our stoners on the common are having one bad moment of indiscretion.
When it comes to this argument, the pro-weed people are always saying they are not violent, but when you check the blood of many DUI's or violent criminals they have it in their blood. The principle of the laws are to keep order...if someone is ok with breaking the law, then who is to say they won't commit a worse crime or start trying a harder drug?
I believe marijuana is a gateway drug. Decriminalize it and you will see more younger kids using it beacuse they are led to believe it isn't that bad and then our methadone clinics will start filling up...
- Barry Watkins, Nashua
When the police and the conservative Union Leader jump on the bandwagon, you know the days are numbered. Americans have always loved mind altering substances, mostly the deadly drug alcohol. Pot gives people a far far safer alternative, and legalization will save billions in wasted enforcement and incarceration. As the largest cash crop in America, we are missing out on a huge revenue stream. The state of New Hampshire has no problem selling the deadly drug alcohol right on the highways where a drunk driver kills someone every 45 minutes in America(13,000 deaths per year).
It's way past time to wake up and smell the herb. The phony, holier than puritans out there need to take a look around - they are the minute minority who don't use some type of substance, and sorry folks, last time I checked - majority still rules.
- pd, Manchester, NH
- Howard Marks, Concord, NH
LOL Howard. If what you claim is true then the further south of NH you went the easier it would be to grow marijuana and that would mean that all those drug cartels who do kill people and sell their drugs to children would be out of business.
Jim in Manchester is 100% correct in saying that those who buy the drugs here in AMERICA supply the money to those with blood on their hands. What the legalization crowd wants is to invite those people into government, if we have not already.
And if you took the handcuffs off people like me I'd be willing to bet I could make the drug cartels disappear and win the war on drugs. They owe me a sister.
- Deb, Derry
- Keith, Keene
- Erin, Manchester
Then Erin lets make pot legal, turn the dealers with blood on their hands into businessmen, tax the living hell out of it so only the rich can afford it, make it hard for those who buy it to have a place to smoke it and treat them like jerks in society. Just like the plight of the tobacco smoker.
If you really want to join that club be my guest. In the end the only one to profit and squander the money will be government. The people will grow yet poorer and half our work force will be half baked. But the scary part is they will be voting while stoned.
- Deb, Derry
Pot was a gateway drug for many people throughout the past few decades. Don't deny it. Stop lying about it. Stop pretending it's as harmless as candy. As any addict and he or she will say that the pot "high" wasn't enough for them and they went on to other, more potent drugs. (That's the "gateway.")
Pot has not proven use, medically, either. The entire medical community, while interested in studying THC further (and that's great) TOTALLY deny that smoked pot, or any smoked substance, is an effective drug. It's blatantly obvious that this is a cover argument for total legalization, which these loons in Keene freely admit. Maybe they were high when they let the strategy slip.
- Stephen, Manchester
That is probably the funniest thing I have read in days.
- Ben, Manchester
- C Mac, Allenstown
- Howard Marks, Concord, NH
Just saying....
- Alice, Epsom
- Jay, Dublin
You are one scary individual.
- Tim K, Jaffrey
Wrong! Tell that to the people in Juarez, MX. The police are scared to come out of their fort and defend the people down there because the drug runners own the town and kill who ever gets in their way. There IS blood all over your joint before its even rolled DUDE! And you paid for the gun.
- Jim, Manchester
tell me how you justify calling these kids loser's, and saying they are going to be homeless in a couple years? Almost all the people I know who smoke it, have full time jobs (and have had them for a long time) graduated high school (with good grades) and pay taxes. So please tell me how you can say they will be homeless. When I see a homeless man on the streets, and let's say I give him $5, what is he going to go buy? A joint? Nope. BEER. Tabacco kill's more people in the U.S.A then anything else. That include's, but is not limited to, murder, and suicide COMBINED. Get a clue.
- Chris, Manchester
Crack down and lock 'em up - that will make their lives better! It sure has done a lot to stop drug use.
Oh, wait. No it hasn't. The war on drugs has done far more damage to people's lives than the actual drugs themselves.
- Ian Freeman, Keene
- Howards Marks, Concord, NH
- Mason, Bedford, NH
- sharon a, springfield vermont
- Bill, Dunbarton
- Howard Marks, Concord, NH
- John M, McLean VA
I applaud those that take action against unjust laws. Civil disobedience is as patriotic as America gets. Sheeple need not apply.
Sign me, a professionally employed, highly educated, property-owning, voting, married, taxpaying, clean record, pot smoker. There are more of us than you think, and more of us in important positions than you'll ever be able to wrap your heads around. And we're tired of hiding in the shadows of your ignorance.
- Howard Marks, Concord, NH
Dittoes on the stupidity of a college student pursuing a career in law enforcement getting headlines for breaking a law; kudos for Officer Parsells for seeing the difference between the minor harm of smoking and the major harm of Prohibition, and boos to the bloggers here who suggest that fellow citizens have a duty to pursue productivity over recreation, to set a good example for your kids, to reform their lives according to your values, and to save you from unpleasant odors. You are the constituency of tyrants, and we have many these days.
- Spike, Brentwood NH
- Lynn, Keene
- Dan, Manchester
- Paul, Merrimack
- Alex, Manchester
Think of the revenue marijuana would generate.
- Harry, Atkinson
They are not hippies, they are druggies. It has polluted their minds into thinking this will not bite them in the arse later in life. It's still illegal and since no one paid attention to their illegal behavior in the park, they notified the press. Now the police will be far more diligent in cleaning up the parks for the families who should be able to use them without the kids witnessing illegal behaviors.
The kid going for his criminal justice degree - Yup, this won't affect your career at all, will it....! Cleanse these pollutants out of your brain and you will see how ridiculous your thought process is to the rest of us!
- Catherine, Auburn
You people need to open your eye's. Tell me what exactly is wrong with pot anyway? I really want to know how many of you smoke cigg's or drink beer? Butt's and beer the two number one killers in america today. Tell me how many death's are recorded in history that are the result of smoking pot? NONE. I'm not saying go smoke in the middle of town like these kids, but smoking in your home, is not harming anyone so whats the big deal?
I dont see how we can have alcohol, and tobacco leagal, but not pot. It makes no sense, and peope like to make seem like pot is way worse than both. WRONG. Do some research and get that facts before you start making false statments about people who consume it. I work everyday, I pay my taxes, I support my wife and child, and at the end of the day if I want to enjoy a joint, or pipe, who the heck are you people to say no? On a final note tell me this, how many case's have you seen where a man consume's to much pot, come's home and beat's his wife? NOT ONCE. Now how about with alcohol? ALL THE TIME.....get a clue people.
- Chris, Manchester
- Lory, goffstown
- Scott, Merrimack
- Andy, Wentworth
i bet they could spell border, correctly, though.
- scott, chichester
- DM, Hampton
- Ace, Keene
- andy, londonderry
For Fred Walker-i think cigarette smoke odor is obnoxious, why don't we make those illegal too?
- Erin, Manchester
I live close enought to Keene to have to go there with my family during the week. Why do I have to risk my family's safety being in a town where you have dope smokers on the loose? Do they drive after all this nonsense.
The Keene PD needs to lock these bums up!!! And a little visit from "Mr. Shocky" would probably be in order as well. Maybe doing the "Tazer 2 Step" would bring these worthless potheads back to reality.
- Captain America, Stoddard NH
- AB, Manchester
The other thing they never mention is who will pay for the treatment of the addicts when the time comes. Like everything else they want the right to do the drugs but if things turn bad there will be no personal responsibility by the users and the tax payer will most likely pick up the tab for their medical bills or drug treatment. Freedom is also owning ones choices unless of course you’re in the fantasy world of drug use.
If the pot heads want legal pot then make it legal for them to grow a few plants for their own self use but with stiff penalties for anyone giving or selling it to minors. That way we can keep our government from being the nation’s drug dealer and the corruption that will come with it.
- Deb, Derry
- David, Merrimack
- Allan, Rochester
I also love Andy comparing smoking pot to eating a salad, yeah kind of the same idea right?
Muni's comparison to Vietnam is also a classic touch. When you run out of valid reasons, just name Vietnam and make a loose poorly connected comparison.
With this all-star team on board people will have no choice but to see the light and legalize it. Great job guys!
- Frank, Manchester
- tom, manchester,nh
- Randy Kangas, New Ipswich
Daily trip to Keene with Oz bag... $100
Having this loser out of the house... priceless
mom and dad must be so proud
say good bye to your criminal justice degree
- rich v, manchester
That is a stupid statement since we already have laws on the books for driving while impaired. As far as the surgeon goes, that is malpractice HELLO!.
If these kids were drinking at the town square wouldn't they get busted? If Marijuana is legalized they would be restrictions. We have restrictions on smoking and drinking already with age limits. This story is "egg of over the faces" of the Keene PD for not enforcing existing laws.
Jason Hart the criminal justice major will have fun getting a job in the "criminal justice business" after a his picture is now all over the net smoking a dube.
- Chris, Merrimack
So where can I get this stuff, from the city counselors or the police?
- David, Keene
- Brian, Farmington
If smoking drugs in public is one of your bigger concerns, you either need to get a life or a job.
- John, Dover
- Ted, Manchester
I'm not sure why a retired police officer would take the position that he has except to say that it is contemporary and popular right now. I guess he may have forgotten all of the damage done to society by drugs and the violence it leaves. Maybe he just wants to be known, who knows, maybe run for another political office.
If one wants to see the damage done to our society by drugs, just check out the great photos in this article. While other parents have sons and daughters fighting in Iraq, Afghanistan and all over the world, these fine specimens of humanity are lighting up marijuana in the town square! Mom and dad must be so proud!
In the meantime our illustrious City Council has the time to debate a useless resolution while our property taxes continue to skyrocket because they can't control spending.
Is it possible that our city council is on drugs and that is why they don't know how to use the subtraction function in our city budget? Hmmmmmm
- Melvin, Keene
- Marc, Manchester
- Fred Walker, Keene, NH
this has passed in Ma, so why not here.
It would reduce imate overcrowding. let the REAL criminals be in jail.
how does the saying go, "everything is fine in moderation"
- c colby, pembroke
- Muni, Manchester
Not that smoking pot affects your judgement skills or anything....
- Kathy, Manchester
Yeah, because utilizing plant material makes people unfit to society.
Ever smoke tobacco? Eat a salad? Do you live in a house made of wood?
Or maybe it's the intoxication that bugs you. I hope you've never gotten drunk, or else you're a hypocrite.
- Andy, Manchester
- Kevin, Portsmouth, NH
Have to wonder, also.... does Mr. Greazzo, the aldermanic candidate from Ward 10 in Manchester partake in the "4:20?" In Keene, or elsewhere? His advocacy for the legalization of the weed (in the past, I should note) goes beyond "medicinal" purposes. What surprises more is that it was a Democratic majority in Concord that rallied for the medicinal use of cannibas, and Phil is a Republican!?! Ideology aside, politics is a funny and strange game.
If these folks in Keene want to change or advocate for change in the laws concerning the use of cannibas, the example given above is not the avenue to travel, despite the words of Councilman Parcells, respectfully.
- Sean O, Manchester
I don't want to walk by someone in the park smoking a joint, but if they want to smoke it in their own home, more power to 'em.
- Alan, Haverhill
- Jim Wilson, Manchester
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