YOUR COMMENTS

If the above examples are the voices of good Christan people, then "Oh, Lord, save me from your followers" Intolerance and hate justified by the Bible? People speaking for God? The term Unitarian used as an insult? Prayer used as a weapon against those who disagree with you? Phrases like "Human trash; non-repentant abominable lifestyle choice." Enough of this Christan nuttery! What next? Another war? Bring back witch burning?
- Ansel, Manchester

It is quite simple, you all know. It is man's will vs. God's will. Our modern day society continues to offend God with our institutionalized efforts to remove or reshape God to our liking. The problem is our sinful desire. Homosexuality is sinful. It is a human desire outside of God's will. It is not a race or other birth given trait. It is a behavior.

The Book of Romans tells us that all have sinned and fallen short of the Glory of God. We have all done that. However, as a Christian, I have a savior in Jesus Christ. I am forgiven.

Every Christian reading this should pray that sin and corruption are revealed and reversed in our government and society. Man alone can not reverse the course that our country is on. We are damning ourselves with our selfishness and lack of desire for a personal relationship with God.

May God have mercy on us and may God bless our President, our leaders, and our nation.

"In God We Trust"
- Bill Maynard, Manchester

"God loves the sinner, but hates the sin. The premise of Christianity is that Christ died to purchase us with his blood, a sacrifice to save us from our own sins." -

All people can do is recie what tye were told to memorize. God gave us brains and intellect to thing- not to just spit out useless drivell.

I just love how people put stock in how and why people have tried to rationalize why God became human and was executed. Why do we have to know why he did it? Why do we have to theologize every little action of God? I also love how Christisn constantly quote the OT law in Lev regarding holosexuality. If you are Christian didn't JC fulfill the law? Ofcourese you will all have a reason why breaking some of lev is okay but not being gay?

I am Catholic, but I am also an individual and have a brain to think for myself. I have a BA and an MA in Theology and cannot believe how people manipulate the Bible to suit their own position.

Perhaps God died becasue he could not stand living among humans anymore because we are so terrible.

Aren't the muslim terrorists fighing us becasue we violate their God's rules? Are we any better than that? From these comments, it appears that we are no better.
- Chris, Bedford

Mike from Temple, isn't it time to lay down the prejudice? The Bible is God's book of love for all people, not just for the currently popular majority.

While you admit that God will be the judge, you act as judge yourself by declaring that Bishop Robinson twists the Bible to justify sin. When did God put you in charge of deciding what is and isn't sin? The Bible and homosexuality is a controversial topic on which there is widespread disagreement, with growing numbers of Biblical scholars agreeing that the Bible, when correctly translated, does not condemn homosexuality as being wrong.

You're right that the Levitical command against eating shellfish is part of the law governing uncleanness, but do you realize that the Levitical command against homosexuality is part of that same law? Leviticus calls homosexuality "toevah," an unclean act, and in Romans, Paul calls it "akatharsia," which also means unclean. Uncleanness refers to something that is not wrong in itself, but is unsuited to certain people or groups. Paul says in Romans 14:14, "I know and am convicted in the Lord Jesus that there is nothing unclean in itself, but that, to him for whom it is unclean, to him it is unclean." This is the same message given in Leviticus, which says that homosexuality is unclean for the Hebrews but acceptable for the Canaanites. If someone "for whom it is unclean" engaged in an unclean act, they were harshly punished, but not everyone fit that description. Finally, when Jesus died on the cross, he did away with the laws governing uncleanness, leaving in place the laws governing unrighteousness.

There's also the question of what exactly Leviticus and Paul are referring to. The Wycliff translations read "by leachery of woman" instead of the later rendition "as with a woman." Paul also makes a poorly understood reference to women. Many biblical scholars believe that Leviticus and Paul were referring to a form of religious prostitution that today no longer exists.
- Matt, Austin, Texas

JB, NB, NH-

Your comments are interesting. It is exactly what I go through when a person of "tolerance and diversity" approaches me and tells me that my Christian beliefs are twisted and old fashioned and that I am intolerant for not accepting their moral relativism, then claim that I am hateful and discriminating against them simply because I won't accept their version of "truth" as true. Thanks though for proving my point. This nation was founded on the truth of Christian Principles. It stayed that way until about 1962, when the Supreme Court invented the notion of the Separation of Church and State simply by taking words of a Jefferson letter to the Danbury Baptist Association completely out of context without including the entire point of his letter, which was basically that the first amendment was created to keep the state out of the church's affairs and not the other way around. Interestingly, this is when things started to go to pot in this country. Our founding fathers held the belief that the US Constitution would only work when applied to a Christian Nation. Don't believe me, go read it for yourself. Much of the surviving content is public record. You can sit there and accuse me of practicing "pretzel logic" if you want to, but facts are facts and whether the truth scares you or not, it's still the truth, and you have yet to prove the truth wrong. I'm figuring I must have struck a nerve since you are resorting to me and my fellow Christians as "you and your ilk." Normally that's what happens when a liberal runs into a brick wall. They have no argument left so they resort to name calling, but I'm used to hearing that from people of "tolerance and diversity."
- Mike, Temple

I am ashamed to live in this state. Bigotry, hate, ignorance. Who are you to judge? People felt the same way once about african-americans, about women. This is just sad.
- DC, Derry

Rt. Rev. Gene Robinson should be the last person in the world to speak about
unity. He has made the choice to split apart the Anglican Church.
- Hugh Sutherland, Hamden, CT

Why use a middle man? Why didn't SaintEmperorPresident Obama descend from the heavens himself and bless all in attendance?
- Tom, Campton

Hocus Pocus voodoo and witchery. Every organized religion since the dawn of time has assumed THEY had it right, and everyone else had it wrong...so why not kill them if they don't convert. This is the muderous history on which you hang your collective judgemental beliefs. Go protest a museum or something and shout at the classroom field trip kids going in that dinosaurs do not exist, we made them up. One thing that organized religion does very well is exploit stupid people.
- Dorothy, Conord

Ann in Durham,

Yes, God loves ALL people but that does NOT mean all people are living in His word. People have a choice to do so or not. God loves the sinner, but hates the sin. The premise of Christianity is that Christ died to purchase us with his blood, a sacrifice to save us from our own sins. We then have a choice...we can CHOOSE to follow his word or not. Robinson is not being truthful. He's twisting scripture to his own advantage as so many people do. The truth is scary to many people. I do not know what his relationship with Christ is like. That is between his heart and Christ. I do not know how he justifies his own sins, and none of us will be sitting on the judgment seat when he dies, but it IS our job to point out when a fellow Christian has deviated from the Word, and Robinson has. If you disagree with me, that's your right, but the truth is the truth.
- Mike, Temple

Temple Mike--no doubt you believe very strongly what you have posted, but when I read it all I can see is pretzel logic that fails to respect that different people have different belief systems. Your god is not my god. That's the way it is. I am not immoral, I'm actually amoral. I have no issue with you or your belief system until you and your ilk take it upon yourselves to proselytize at me, and then claim discrimination, hate or worse when I tell you to leave me alone.

Keep twisting that 'good book' every which way.
- JB, NB, NH

A correction is needed to my previous post. Jefferson wrote in a 1802 letter to the Danbury Baptists in which he argued that the Constitution created a wall of separation between church and state. The Baptist were assured that the Constitution did not permit the establishment of a national denomination. Madison argued a case in court soon after that establishing the separation between Religion and Government.
- Ann Corliss, Durham

To Jack in Hampton... Most of the hate, intolerance and greed comes from the right???? Ok, so let's just try having a civil disagreement about an emotional issue. There are extremes on both sides, but you will notice that it is not the "Right" that gets personal and nasty about disagreements about points of view. The right tends to argue about actions. It is the other side (not counting the fringe) that becomes bitterly personal.
- Frank, Manchester

If God does love all people then Bishop Robinson is living His words and is being true to who he is and prays to help and bring peace to every single person in this nation and on this earth. What a concept, a church leader who is truthful and does not hide behind whatever version of the Bible or part of a verse that suits him. And to mary w. - conservatives want the Bible followed which part? Who's setting policy on which verse? Only for the needs of conservatives not for the greater good of the nation? Which if you understood the Constitution, that is the very reason Jefferson and Madison wrote a passage on the importance of the separation between church and State.
- Ann Corliss, Durham, NH

It's interesting to read the responses and hate-filled rhetoric here from non-Christians who once again like to demonize their favorite targets and show us how hypocritical and judgmental they really are. The winner of the funniest post was the guy who tried to use Old Testament Law of the Israelites with respect to the non-consumption of shellfish. Moses was setting down the Law to keep them physically and spiritually clean. Not eating shellfish....not a bad idea if you think about it. Clams and lobsters are the bugs of the sea. Anyway, what most non-Christians I know personally do not understand is that the center of a Christian's belief system is "I am a sinner, Jesus Christ is my savior." Plain and simple. ALL good Christians I know will step right up and tell you that THEY are the world's biggest sinner in need of a savior...that is, if you give them 10 seconds to speak before intolerantly bashing them for being "intolerant". Do we evangelize? Yes, it's our job to. Do we spread the word about the forgiveness of sin? Yes it's our job to. Do we take flack for it from the so called "people of tolerance and diversity?" Yes, and once again, it's our job to. Christ said we'd be put down in His name, and some folks on this board are doing a great job of proving Him right once again. Thanks. It also helps to point out how hypocritical those people really are. Christ gave us all a choice to follow Him or not. Many people obviously do not. I personally think Rev Robinson has taken the teachings of his Savior and twisted them into his own agenda, creating his own version of God in his head despite what scripture says. All you have to do is compare his words to Christ's. Is what the reverend preaching biblical? No, it is not. Someone made some comment here about scripture only being good for starting wars. Okay, well, you need to have some type of final word. Some type of authority or law for a nation to exist. I know that's a problem for liberals, who live in a world of moral relativism....if it feels good, do it....but that leads to anarchy. It's NOT what the Founding Father's intended what they used the term "life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness." They lived in a time when man in general had more respect for his Creator..when man was not so egotistical and "enlightened". Someone made the comment that liberals live their life freely as they choose and conservatives are always trying to push their views off onto others. You were wrong on both accounts. Do conservatives always try to push THEIR views off on liberals....some do, some don't. Many just want us to stick to the Constitution...the thing we conservatives are trying to conserve. We get angry when liberals try to fix what is not broken. I've also had plenty of liberals try to tell me how to think. One time it almost cost me my job, so don't feed me that lie anymore please. It simply is not true.

Many non-Christians here seem to think that we Christians feel as though we are better than everyone else. Nothing could be further from the truth. We simply take Christ's teachings to heart and do the best we can do in these sinful bodies in this sinful fallen world and apply them to our daily lives. All men are sinners and all fall short of the glory of God, hence the savior. We are all tempted. We all sin. It's what you do with that sin that determines your character. Are you going to ask for forgiveness and sin no more, or are you going to make excuses for your sins and justify them as "normal" behavior despite what God says (your moral relativism)? This is the problem many people in America run into. They hear the truth, and the truth scares them because it doesn't fit in with how they want to live, so they demonize it. Many homosexuals fall into this category. Not one gene has been found to prove that homosexuality is an inherited trait. Not one. They've tried for years and nothing. It's a choice people make, and there are plenty of "ex-homosexuals" that can attest to that. Homosexuals have the freedom to make a choice of how they want to live, but their actions have consequences, just like the rest of us. I don't bash the gay people I know for being gay, but they know where I stand. They know that I feel their actions will have consequences, just as mine do.

For some reason, it's PC to demonize the faith that our Constitution was based upon to the point of rewriting history to claim we were not a nation based on Judeo-Christian values. That speaks volumes about where we are heading. Many of our Founding Father's personal journals and letters contradict liberal revisionism, yet the pathetic public school system in this country ignores the truth. We let God in our Government, schools, everywhere for 180 years or so, and sure we had problems, but we prospered. As soon as we started removing God from America, thinking like "progressives", we started to falter. Now God has been stripped away from pretty much all aspects of public life, and we're hammering away at the rest of our nation's foundation. Where do you think that will lead? Try breaking apart your house's foundation and tell me what happens. This is where "progressive" liberal, socialist thinking has lead this country...to the edge of the cliff. Down below we can see the citizens of Nazi Germany, the USSR, China, North Korea and much of Europe...all fell for "progressive" socialist thinking. In closing I have one more interesting note that I dare anyone to prove false...those liberals who preach the most about tolerance and diversity are the most intolerant of all. Look at the comments on this board, and prove to me otherwise.
- Mike, Temple

"a church founded under disobedience and violence". That's a good laugh. One could say the entire Protestant branch of the Christian Church was founded under disobedience. So those of you who are "evangelical Christians" are according to Henry VIII of Canteberry being disobedient. Heed those warnings you sinners!!

Folks, live and let live. If you don't like gay marriage, gay relationships or gay sex, then don't have any.
- Richard, Manchester

Is there not something in the book that all of you "good christians" are always thumping on about not judging people? Is
that not what your "god" is supposed to do? Judge not......typical, very typical.
- Zizzy, Manchester

Leviticus 11:10 (King James Version)

"And all that have not fins and scales in the seas, and in the rivers, of all that move in the waters, and of any living thing which is in the waters, they shall be an abomination unto you"

Matthew 19:6 "So they are no longer two, but one flesh. Therefore, what God has joined together, man must never separate."

You Cafeteria Christians need to re-read the bible. Are you having sex to procreate only? Are you practicing sodomy in any way? Are you committing adultery? No of course not, no christian has ever done that. No christian has ever hired male prostitutes either. Its a book, there are lots of them all proclaiming to be the "one true Book". Thanks for the wars and the millions of dead throughout history over this nonsense.
- Dorothy, Concord

So, just so we're in agreement, one of you bible thumping bigots will be personally putting the adulterers of the world to death as per said Bible, right?
- Chris, Londonderry, NH

The real irony is that we have a bishop praying for people to be more tolerant, compassionate, and generous when most of the intolerance, hate, and greed come from the religious right.
- Jack, Hampton

What a joyous occasion, New Hampshire's very own homosexual Episcopal Bishop delivering an invocation as part of the inaugural events! I'm sure the Bishop's joy is overflowing and that all fair minded people will celebrate the event by not only tolerating homosexuals, but also by accepting and respecting them and what they do "with a warm embrace". Isn't that what diversity and equality is all about?

Let's hope that the Bishop and his partner Mark go to one of the Inaugural Balls and dance together. What a perfect ending that would be.
- John, Maine

The only reason Robinson was there is because he is gay and actively supported Obama's campaign. It's not because he's some national-type preacher. (Don't kid yourselves.) It's his homosexuality, precisely, that defines his being there. But isn't that precisely the type of stereotyping the homosexual lobby claims to rail against? "Wait, wait....we're all (gays and straits) different....I mean, wait, uh, were just like all the rest of you (heterosexuals) don't treat us differently....wait, uh, I mean we're different we need special laws to....except when we're the same...we're just like you, uh.....I mean." It's so confusing.
- Jimmy, Hampton

Bishop Robinson was elected to speak only because he is gay. What he prayed is irrelevant. It was to appease the minorities. I hope they are happy enough now to stop whining.
- Bill, Dunbarton

ljc, wrong. . .conservatives want the Bible followed; that is not controlling lives. Living free as you say is anarchy and doing whatever one feels like doing. It is living without any sense of morals or mores, which our Constitution is based on, fool. Liberals say hey, if you want to, kill babies being born and men diddle with men, etc.
- mary w, manch nh

My friends As I read some of your comments I too am reminded of scripture."Away with you satans, you speak man's words not God's."

Greg Barrett
Manchester
- Greg Barrett, Manchester

If I was the Reverend, I'd be praying for a balanced budget and responsible spending. It makes far more sense than "unity" (whatever that is)!
- gr chase, Exeter

The comments on this page demonstrate a key truism about conservatives and liberals in our society. Liberals want to let people live freely as they chose while conservatives want to control the actions of others. Tell me again who is honoring the Constitution?
- ljc, Manchester

Ed, from Sandown, the biblical "abomination" you reference is from Leviticus 20:13. May I suggest you and anyone else who so readily calls up the Bible to condemn gays actually go back and read and study the passage?

It has more to do with the Israelite priests distinguishing themselves from the Cannanites than anything about gays. Eating ham, lying with a woman during menstruation, shaving, eating shellfish are equally condemned in this passage. Have you done any of these things lately? Unless you are a Hassidic Jew, really, most Americans are pretty much breaking the laws of this passage on a daily basis.

Henry VII, props for referring to the birth of the Episcopal church. I always found it rather bizarre that the Anglican church (British root of Episcopal) had a problem with Prince Charles divorcing. Afterall, the whole church was founded because the Pope would not allow Henry to divorce. Hmm...then again, you want to talk about violence...how 'bout them Crusades?
- Cathy McDonald, Derry, NH

Homosexuality is a sin, no other way to define it. Yes that's right, it is a sin. Should homosexuals be able to worship God wherever they choose, YES. How else can they be open to hear GOD speak to their hearts and repent their sin? Those that would shut them out are just as sinfule, if not more.

Putting an openly homosexual individual in leadership is a sin as well. By doing so, the Episcopalien Church has basically said, We do not care that God says it is a sin, its ok with us. (Redefining sin, and rewording the Bible will cause many to fall into the abyss as well. (See the last chapter in Revelation)
- Mike, Raymond

Homosexuality is a sin, no other way to define it. Yes that's right, it is a sin. Should homosexuals be able to worship God wherever they choose, YES. How else can they be open to hear GOD speak to their hearts and repent their sin? Those that would shut them out are just as sinfule, if not more.

Putting an openly homosexual individual in leadership is a sin as well. By doing so, the Episcopalien Church has basically said, We do not care that God says it is a sin, its ok with us. (Redefining sin, and rewording the Bible will cause many to fall into the abyss as well. (See the last chapter in Revelation)
- Mike, Raymond

Don't worry, you neocons can get your allotment of hatred towards anything you don't believe in under the guise of Christianity when Rick Warren speaks at the inauguration.
- Jim Wilson, Manchester

What I am reading here is EXACTLY why a man like Gene Robinson needs to be in our lives. To teach us about tolerance!

It makes me sick to read that people are judging him here based on the fact that he is gay, and not on the fact that he is a great pastor. Have any of the people who posted here actually MET him (or have put your intolerance aside to do so)? I have. He is a great person, and a wonderful speaker. My kids actually liked him a lot too.
- Justin, Manchester

What a happy story.

Zerobama, Rev. Wright, Bishop Robinson and Barney Frank are all in DC.

The chickens have come home to roost.
- Bill Howard, Exeter

This could have more accurately been called the "Idolater's Prayer." Robinson has replaced the God of the bible with a god of his own making. One without morals, one that allows us to live as WE see fit, and one that is certainly not angry at sin.

The Episcopal church, where I was married, has become irrelevant. It is now just another church teaching "oprahnity" and whatever feel-good message the culture desires to hear so it will not be forced to look at itself critically.

For those who go around acting as if there will be no final judgment, when the day comes, they see just how wrong they are. For those who are leaders in the church, such as Gene Robinson, they will pay a great price for leading so many astray.

I hope that Gene Robinson and the Episcopal church will turn and come back into the fold. However, it sees that they have dug in their heels and are shaking their collective fists at God's rule.

Keep up your prayers for our brother and sister Episcopalians. They need it.
- Wayne, Manchester

Mr. Robinson's prayer to the "god of our many understandings" equates the Judaeo-Christian God with all other gods. This is Unitarian heresy. He might as well been praying to Baal.

What irony that the microphone was off for all but the last sentence of his speech.

Of course, he had no business being there in the first place. His tiny diocese is evaporating. It has lost 17% of attendance since he took over (6% last year alone) and now stands at just over a total of 4,000.

Apparently, the totally self-centered homosexual community will be venting their spleen at HBO. First it was Mormons and Catholics, then Rick Warren, now HBO. Don't even think about not pandering to this group of spoiled hedonists.
- robroy, littleton, co

Bishop Robinson is a political Bishop and a model for the kind of "state sanctioned" church the left would love us to have.
- Chris, Merrimack

sex with anyone or anything other than the opposite sex is perverted and a grave sin against god and man. if it is a natural thing why do animals choose the opposite sex for mating. these people would have you believe they are normal humans when they are sick and perverse. they are after our children, with the acceptance thing, and have convinced, tv and the movie makers as well. moral america rise up and get rid of this human trash before its to late.
- john leonard, hooksett

Robinson and the Episcopal Church are all about the "anything goes" mentality. Robinson is all about the "gay agenda" first, Christ second. It's sad for all of us in NH.
- Hank, Kingston

HBO did not show Robinsons invocation. The sound system was turned off for nearly all of his remarks - So most people there did not heare those remarks either. the Text follows below:

A Prayer for the Nation and Our Next President, Barack Obama

By The Rt. Rev. V. Gene Robinson, Episcopal Bishop of New Hampshire

Opening Inaugural Event
Lincoln Memorial, Washington, DC
January 18, 2009

Welcome to Washington! The fun is about to begin, but first, please join me in pausing for a moment, to ask God’s blessing upon our nation and our next president.

O God of our many understandings, we pray that you will…

Bless us with tears – for a world in which over a billion people exist on less than a dollar a day, where young women from many lands are beaten and raped for wanting an education, and thousands die daily from malnutrition, malaria, and AIDS.

Bless us with anger – at discrimination, at home and abroad, against refugees and immigrants, women, people of color, gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender people.

Bless us with discomfort – at the easy, simplistic “answers” we’ve preferred to hear from our politicians, instead of the truth, about ourselves and the world, which we need to face if we are going to rise to the challenges of the future.

Bless us with patience – and the knowledge that none of what ails us will be “fixed” anytime soon, and the understanding that our new president is a human being, not a messiah.

Bless us with humility – open to understanding that our own needs must always be balanced with those of the world.

Bless us with freedom from mere tolerance – replacing it with a genuine respect and warm embrace of our differences, and an understanding that in our diversity, we are stronger.

Bless us with compassion and generosity – remembering that every religion’s God judges us by the way we care for the most vulnerable in the human community, whether across town or across the world.

And God, we give you thanks for your child Barack, as he assumes the office of President of the United States.

Give him wisdom beyond his years, and inspire him with Lincoln’s reconciling leadership style, President Kennedy’s ability to enlist our best efforts, and Dr. King’s dream of a nation for ALL the people.

Give him a quiet heart, for our Ship of State needs a steady, calm captain in these times.

Give him stirring words, for we will need to be inspired and motivated to make the personal and common sacrifices necessary to facing the challenges ahead.

Make him color-blind, reminding him of his own words that under his leadership, there will be neither red nor blue states, but the United States.

Help him remember his own oppression as a minority, drawing on that experience of discrimination, that he might seek to change the lives of those who are still its victims.

Give him the strength to find family time and privacy, and help him remember that even though he is president, a father only gets one shot at his daughters’ childhoods.

And please, God, keep him safe. We know we ask too much of our presidents, and we’re asking FAR too much of this one. We know the risk he and his wife are taking for all of us, and we implore you, O good and great God, to keep him safe. Hold him in the palm of your hand – that he might do the work we have called him to do, that he might find joy in this impossible calling, and that in the end, he might lead us as a nation to a place of integrity, prosperity and peace.

AMEN.
- Kate Cooper, SF CA

Brother Gene, you are sorely misguided, and despite your flowerly seductive rhetoric you are not enlightened at all.

(1) You pine concern over what the Sikhs will think, but not over what God (that would be The God of Abraham) thinks of your non-repentant abominable lifestyle choice?

(2) You pine that the last thing you want to do is exclude any American, yet you clearly want our brother Pastor Rick Warren off the agenda?

(3) Does your "non-specific deity" include the god of war (Mars), the Egyption sun-god (Ra), the god of Money (whom too many worship), and the god of Self (for those who only believe in themselves instead of any God)? Satan worshippers and the god-of-unity-at-all costs too? Are you praying to all these gods, collectively, even when they are anthema to one another?

Spare me the predicable "Who will cast the first stone" and "First remove the plank from thine eye" rebuttals. I am merely exhorting brother Gene to repent, and go and sin no more, whilst we all try to do the same.

Henry VIII, I agree with all your points but would have worded them more graciously. After all, brother Gene is just a common heretic and common sinner, falling short ... just like the rest of us.
- Ed Holdgate, Sandown, NH

What about anger toward Christians and orthodox Jews . This gentleman's actions are a disgrace. He is the emblem of all that is wrong with this 'culture of death' ,relativism and just plain stupidity of what it stands for. This man was not elected bishop for any other reason than actvism of liberals. I would not put it past the diocese of NH to elect a non-Christain or an atheist as its next bishop in the name of tolerance and healing. HA HA. So sad... but not unexpected of a church founded out of disobediance and violence with Henry the VIII. Robinison is the book end to the experiment. Anglicanism is dead. If they do not return to the real Gospel and teaching of Jesus instead of the tidbits of Hollywood, Oprah and leftists 'best life' rhetoric and foolishness. God Save America.
- Henry VIII, Canteberry