Police raid party, arrest 91 Colby-Sawyer students

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"Part of college is growing up." True. Part of growing up is learning that actions have consequences. You break the law, you suffer the consequences. If you feel the law is unfair, work to change it. Otherwise, take your chances - but don't complain when you get caught. What is laughable is that so many students think that because the police have tolerated the parties in the past, that gave the students the right to push the limits. They got a false sense of security.
- TLB, Portland, ME

As a recent graduate of CSC it is very sad to see all of the negitive comments against the school. I spend my entire senior year along with the rest of my nursing class working on different community based projects, donating to needy families, and volunteering at different organizations as well as spending a significant amount of money at the grocery store, the pharmacy, Lemon Twist, CB Coburns, the hardware store, Jacks, Peter Cristians, The Flying Goose, and the gas station every single week so that I could travel to clinicals.
Its sad that people are getting so worked up over this. Cant you just get over it and move on?
- Alumni, Mass

As the mother of a CSC graduate who has a yougner son at UNH and is a 19 year employee of another fine academic institution, Dartmouth College, I can tell you that partying happens EVERYWHERE!

Do I think it got out of hand? Yes, absolutely it did and for that I'm sorry, but to suggest that CSC expel all of them is one of the worst possible things that could be done. First, CSC can't afford to expel these students. Tuition dollars in this economy are extemely important. Second, there is a greater benefit to the students involved in keeping them in school. What are these students going to do if you send them home? There aren't jobs for them to do and even volunteer work has dried up in some areas. Third, this is an amazing opportunity for CSC and the Town of New London to examine their connections and strive to develop better communication.

Lets talk a little bit about the misconception that the students at CSC are rich, lazy, and disengaged. Let me assure you that my son does not come from an advantaged background. If I had to put us in a financial category, it would be lower, middle class. As a single parent, it is never easy to pay for college, but I felt then, as I still feel today, that CSC was the right choice for my son. During his time at CSC, he earned a decent GPA, was involved with two sports at CSC as well as many local, area youth sports in various capacities. Oh, and he kept a part-time job, stayed involved with other campus/community activities and most definitely partied every weekend.

You know what they say about assumptions? Well, it applies here.

Part of what needs to happen at the college level is teaching young people how to live in this world. I hope CSC uses this incident as an opportunity and I hope that these young people who made a mistake (come on all of you throwing stones, have you ever made a mistake) can learn from this experience and move forward.

If this is a major problem at CSC, and I don't think it is, then why don't the people in New London offer solutions?
- Vicki, Lyme, NH

It is disturbing to see some of the supercilious and ignorant comments from New London residents, some who claim to be “leaders” in the community, and others who cite “wrestling legends” for quotes. It appears college parties with underage drinking are limited to Colby-Sawyer, and littering only happens in their town. These are issues at schools everywhere and in towns everywhere, just take a look around if and when you leave town. The school was founded in 1837 and I doubt any of you were in town first. You know the school is there yet you choose to live there and complain about it. There are plenty of towns very similar to New London in the area for you to grow old in.

To say the school does nothing for the community is a grossly boorish statement. New London's population was 4,469 in 2008, and the CSC student body was comprised of 1,119 - that's a little over 25% for those of you without your abacus. Where do these students go out to eat? The Flying Goose, Peter Christian’s, McKenna’s, Pizza Chef, China City, and the Millstone. They grocery shop at Hannaford’s, pick up snacks at the gas station down town, and grab coffee at Jack’s. Perhaps Sue doesn’t have the foot traffic from students because her store sells wares she created in Underwater Basket Weaving class, something that doesn’t exactly hit the demographic for CSC students.

But CSC has no impact on the community, right?

Does anyone remember in 2000 when New London needed space for administration offices and CSC donated the Academy Building to house them? How about Mercer Gym which is open to the public? Not to mention CSC alum Signe Leville, who in 2007 started the Kearsarge Summer Swim Team which at the time was comprised of about 40 kids and swam at Bucklin Beach. Students in the Nursing program volunteer at the hospital, and those in the Child Development program volunteer at Windy Hill, where many New London residents bring their children. During my time at CSC and the time leading up to it, the importance of giving back to the community was always stressed.

New London is a Mecca for retirees, considering 42% of the New London population is over the age of 55. Many seniors set goals once they have visited to retire there. Some, like William Tighe, even state that CSC contributes to their quality of life! Imagine that! Do the people know that CSC offers courses geared towards seniors that they can take and even teach? Probably not, but you can ask William all about it as he has taken courses and taught there.

I also beg to differ in regards to those commenting on the actions taken by these students. I would assume by making such comments that not once in your life have you been in violation of any laws of any sort. No underage drinking, never littered, never was cited for any motor vehicle infractions (which are civil infractions, just like the act of underage drinking).

These kids were doing what hundreds of thousands of adolescents do every weekend - drink and party with friends. It is a time in their lives where many are away from their parents for the first time and is their first taste of adulthood, serious decision making, and forging friendships that will last the rest of their lives. This does not make it right nor condoned, but it is a reality. For those to have a feeling of consternation (Dan, New London - did you need to look that one up?) is, in my opinion, gauche (another one Dan!). They are going to drink. They are going to party. They are going to be in New London and so are you. They are not out driving while doing it because it mostly happens on campus, and when it does not they can walk to the venue. It is actually a lot safer than most other colleges and situations, from my experience visiting my friends at their schools.

Townspeople relax. There are a lot worse things going on in the world than some kids drinking in the middle of nowhere. Your money, job, luxury SUV, and involvement in the Chamber of Commerce give you no entitlement to judge the lifestyles, actions, and mistakes of others. After all, if you were so holy you would remember the Eighth Commandment: “You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor”, which forbids misinterpreting the truth in relations with others.
- Jeff Rose, '04, Framingham, MA

Osgood,
As I just told Sue, we did not come here to spend money. It must be weird for you to comprehend that college students came to college to get an education. On the weekend after a hard week, I do not think it is a bad thing to go out and have a good time. Do I think those that got caught should be held responsible? Yes. Do I think it was the brightest thing to have a party that close to the police station? No. However, do I think that you should not stereotype us into a category of low class punks? No I do not, and I think that is very immature for you to say. I used to have such great respect for those who lived in New London, but now you have caused me to reconsider my previous thoughts. It makes me laugh that, at first, the community grouped us into a category of “rich, snobby kids” and now it has changed to “broke, low class punks”. Maybe you, Osgood, should take the two cents that we can’t rub “togather”, as you say, and go take a quick educational course and learn how to spell. Not to mention, did you go to college? If you did, which I can’t really tell from your immaculate spelling skills, did you pay property taxes? Come to think about it, I don’t think any students pay property taxes for the school they attend. I guess you learn something new every day. And if you run this town so much, why do you feel the need to use our facilities daily (gym, library, attend our activities, etc.). It’s funny that you all can say how much better New London would be without Colby-Sawyer, but, in fact, if we got up and left, this town that you supposedly own would dry up in a matter of seconds. No one would visit this town in the middle of nowhere without this college and you all just don’t want to admit it.
- CSC Student, New London

Hey, Union Leader, why aren't the names and ages of those cited listed? Last month's underage drinking story about the St. Anselm young people included their names and ages. Why the difference?
- sheri, greencastle,pa

Sue,

You made several lists of things that we, CSC students, do not do. I would like to correct your statements because you seem to not really know what you are talking about.

1) You say that we do not volunteer at the Hospital. Well I would like to say that this is a completely ridiculous statement. As a member of the SNA (Student Nursing Association) at CSC, I know for sure that we do. Last year we had planned to make dinner at David’s House. If you volunteered at Hospitals you would know what this is, but in case you do not take your own advice, let me tell you. This is a place that is a home-away-from-home for families with children who are receiving care at Dartmouth Hitchcock. We try to give our time to be with them, while making dinner for them. So if that is not considered volunteering, I do not know what is. Yes, we could spend more time, but as a nursing student, I know that I will be spending plenty of time in hospitals helping those in the surrounding community. Maybe one day you will be my patient. I hope you remember the words you told us about our future. If not, let me remind you. You told us that our future was in the bottle of a beer can. I would rather have my future be in the bottle of a beer can than have my future be in a delusional world where all of my thoughts are misconstrued, one-sided, and guided by lack of evidence, as yours evidently are.

2) We do not go to church, you say? I know plenty of people who attend churches at least one day during the week. It may not be Sunday morning, so I apologize. They were probably up too late being “hooligans” and doing this new thing called “underage drinking”. Not to mention, why do we need to go to church? Not everyone who goes to Colby-Sawyer believes in those religions and does not find it something they should do. I personally do not go to church, and I am still a good person. So, therefore, I find it ignorant and just plain stupid of you to tell people they need to go to church. You, Sue, can have your own beliefs and let us have ours.

3) As for the local elementary schools, I assure you, many of our education majors probably have been to several classes in the neighboring schools. Not to mention the child development majors to interact with the younger generation at Windy Hill. You probably have never heard of Windy Hill because you have obviously never been to the campus, so let me explain what it is: Windy Hill is a day care center where people drop their children off to be watched. The best part is that their children are watched by CSC students and the faculty that is employed by Windy Hill. Here, students play with and care for these children.

4) Do we give packages to the needy? Yes we do. Just last weekend there were stacks of non-perishable foods in our cafeteria that were going to be donated to the needy. Also, in previous years, CSC has asked students to donate old coats and jackets to give to those less fortunate to make sure they can stay warm over the cold winters.

Maybe if you ever came to this campus or New London for that matter, because it is clearly apparent that you do not get out very often, you would see all that Colby-Sawyer does for the community. Sorry, Sue, that it does not meet your high standards. We do what we can and that is all that matters. We came to school to get an education not to spend ample amounts of money on town of New London to make the town wealthier. If you complain so much, maybe Colby-Sawyer students should stop spending their money in town, and we should go elsewhere since you do not appreciate what we already spend our money on. I hope you remember the words you are saying to those who will be caring for you and supporting you with our tax dollars. Have fun driving by in you luxury SUV saying a prayer for us. But maybe you should think to say a prayer for yourself as well. Maybe you can pray that one day you will stop judging and stereotyping people, and learn to support future generations and try to guide them on the right path. Also maybe you should pray to God that you will eventually learn to appreciate what CSC does for the town of New London and its surrounding communities and stop taking it all for granted. I’m pretty sure God does not want you to judge people and says that you should accept people for who they are, regardless of mistakes they have made. I think you need to go to church on Sunday and pray for that, and better things that actually matter. Since you are so big on charities and everything, pray for something useful like people having food on their plates for the holidays or having somewhere warm to stay. You should start to take your own advice before you give advice to other people. And maybe you should finally act as mature as you claim to be, because thus far you have been reflecting your own immaturity and your own ignorance.
- CSC Student, New London

As a CSC alum, I can say without a doubt that Colby-Sawyer College gave me the tools and experience needed to compete, and land, a job in a less-than favorable job market.

I can also say that it taught me life lessons regarding alcohol, drugs and safety.

Underage drinking and experimenting is a part of the undergraduate lifestyle and I find it particularly hilarious that the citizens of New London would take it upon themselves to become enraged enough to start a flamewar on the Union Leader's messageboard. Were you not young at one time? It might have been in the early 1900's but you were once young and you most likely had the same alcohol-induced, life changing moments. Not one of you can say you didn't drink before the age set by the powers-that-be, and you should be ashamed for pointing the finger at these students.

Yes, it was not the greatest idea to hold a party at the "Yellow House" with a copious amount of people present, but that's a part of growing up. To say otherwise is to be wildly and unreasonably ignorant.

While residents of New London will be quick to damn those involved in the events of Nov.13, I know that the three students named in this article are strong students who are trying only to graduate and make a name for themselves.

I urge the townspeople of New London to look at the students at Colby-Sawyer not as "rich, spoiled students," but as community members who not only keep your small town economy afloat, but also give back with volunteer work at the local schools, hospitals and churches in the area.
- Sean, NY

It certainly is unfair that this is bringing so much negative publicity to Colby-Sawyer. Many would argue that any publicity is good publicity though. In this case it is not. President Galligan is very wise not to throw out a whole lot of punishment in this case...because it is after all just a party…a party that happens at every college, on every weekend, by many, many students. The interesting thing about this situation is that there is very little to do in New London than classes, study, participate in athletics, and party on the weekends. And if it were indeed known as a hostile "party" school (which it is not) you would have a right to be worried...but the administration and staff on campus run a very, very tight ship. The residents of New London should be so lucky to have these kids, the professional campus safety officers, an intelligent and wise president, and of course the students parents paying for their tuition.
If it were not for these kids New London would be a hurting small town in the middle of nowhere. I did not attend Colby-Sawyer College, yet I did coach there for five years. I have only known the students to be courteous and intelligent when it came to how they spent their free time. There is no theft, murder, major drug use, and other serious crime on campus...this cannot be said about many other small private schools in New England.
Give the kids a break. If you are unhappy with the drinking build a movie theater near campus, open up a bar or night club, it will help aid your local economy and give the kids something else to do. Don't just complain...figure out some solutions folks.
- Sean McCaffrey, Dayton, OH

This lineage of comments is a disgrace. First, this whole event is not particularly newsworthy, and still this message board somehow finds away to become an argument that no longer pertains to the actual events and actions of the students or the police. Bottom line: the students got caught doing something illegal, and the police clearly wanted to send a statement. I would imagine that typical protocol for this scenario would be to break up the party and perhaps charge the hosts with serving booze to minors and violating neighborhood decorum or something of the sort.

Of course, all these townspeople are preoccupied with sniping at the college from behind their little keyboards, on a webpage of the most pretentious and foul news source northeast of the New York Post, no less.

I grew up in New London, went to Dartmouth for college, and then lived in New London for a short time afterward before moving on with life. It's a wonderful little town that has generally enjoyed fantastic town-gown relations with most of its members. When I, like most of the college detractors posting here probably have or will, will return to New London when I am old, decaying, and can't control my flatulence anymore. It is a cute little New England town, a good place to grow up, live, and retire. Unfortunately, it has its severe cultural flaws. The 03257 zip code has one of the highest concentrations of millionaires of any town in the country, so I am sadly not surprised by the wealth of out-of-touch, self-righteous, snobs who have been thus far disparaging Colby-Sawyer and its effect on the community. Honestly, people. Just because you made or make good money hardly means you are more useful to the town of New London. Just because you're wealthy doesn't mean anyone is more likely to remember you ever existed 10 years after you pass away.

This "Sue" bird is particularly venomous. I'm sure in between being a "member of the chamber of commerce" (as if that makes her an authority on small-town economics) and "driving past the college in [her] luxery SUV" feeling superior, she doesn't have time to consider that her elite bitterness is not exactly going to make her retirement any more fulfilling. Seriously, madam, next time you look in the mirror at what is probably a bitter shell of your former self with a stereotypical teenage-boy-with-short-grey-hair-and-bangs haircut, think about turning over a new leaf--there could be something called "common sense" (no, not the Glen Beck kind) hiding under there. Sue and her ilk on this message board need to kick up their feet and have a good pint of reality.

The students have been held accountable for their actions by law enforcement, and the reality is that if the party was a local disturbance, the police have a duty to respond to complaints and were well within their bounds to do what they did, even if they were overzealous. Either way you look at it, the story is already a PR nightmare for the college, and the students underaged will face counselling or community service of some nature.

Regarding the appalling sniping at the entire college and its community, the insults and allegations border on ridiculous. New London would be more of a ghost town than it already is from Veterans Day to Memorial Day without the college, and there would be even less cultural diversity and no college-community events or outreach. Throwing bogus emprirical non-evidence into an argument does not make it a good argument.

Additionally, the concept that students under the age of 21 engaging in drinking across the street from campus is neither unusual nor a stain on their general intelligence or character. Ignore the debate concerning the drinking age for now, because it's not much of a debate. Not only do parties and underage drinking happen at nearly every single academic institution in the western world, but they happen at the finest universities in the world with the world's finest individuals often partaking in them. My alma mater, Dartmouth, is famous for its alcohol related culture, yet has one of the finest academic reputations in the country. Harvard University, generally considered the best university in the world, has notoriously wild alcohol induced parties. This is not to say that these parties or alcohol abuse is a good thing. Essentially, the point is that these things happen everwhere, even at the top of academia, where the responsible and recreational use of alcohol does not counter balance someone's good character or intellect. Most of the world's greatest leaders have enjoyed and will enjoy a few pints after a long week.

There is no need to add to the arguments made by those students who contribute to the New London community with their money or their time, but it should be pointed out that the college community generally shares a good relationship with the town, and the diarhetic scribblings of a bunch of prissy economic segregationists does not mean that New London is as pretentious as it might seem here.

That said, I would urge future student posts to avoid championing wild parties and binge drinking as a good thing in an argument, as it makes you look foolish. Responsible drinking can be a good thing in society, so long as our actions do not adversely effect others in anyway. Clearly, this massive party was affecting neighbors and potentially putting others in harms way, so its break up was a good thing, even if the means and behavior by which the police acted were eager and possibly unnecessary.

The anti-CSC venom displayed on this message board is patently absurd and unfortunately bitter. The students who broke the law have been or will be punished, but they nor the entire Colby-Sawyer community is worthy of such scorn.

Oh, I wanted to mention, if anyone is interested, Hannaford's is having a great sale on reality tomorrow... it's in the wine aisle.
- John Williams, Charlotte, NC

I am a parent of a CSC graduate, as well as a resident of a college community. As, many have stated, there are studies beyond belief done which support the fact that colleges do greatly support the businesses in the town in which they exist. Also, these very same students DO give back to communities, as most colleges now REQUIRE some kind of communinty service. Many of these required services develop into life long servicing. Certainly something to be commended. Having had a student at CSC, I know that student giving to the community is stressed. As a member of a college community, I can tell you that college students drinking parties have been going on for decades! The manner in which the attendees conduct themselves is what is to be reckoned with. As a parent, I happen to know that the CSC campus security does a superb job with dealing with the students, allowing them to enjoy themselves, but keeping it in control. If they lost sight of one gathering, it is NOT the end of the world.
I wonder what the residents would think if the arrest had been for cocaine instead of alcohol, as it is on many campuses?
This was mild folks. Yes, it may have disturbed your evening, but it is nothing to get in a tizzy about! You chose to live in a college town and most aware people know the pros and cons of that. I would like to know how many people know that some of your HIGH SCHOOL students were also in attendance at this party?!
One last comment I have is that my daughter is NOT a spoiled, rich brat. She came from a middle class family and went to college on academic scholarships. If one looked into the facts, this is the case of many of the CSC students. I am proud that she attended and graduated with honors from CSC. Oh, and yes she did do much community service and she DID party!
- Carol, Swanzey

First off I would like to say that those of you putting down Colby-Sawyer students are the pimple on the back side of New London. Many of us are on financial aid...meaning we are not a spoiled bunch of kids and like many of other college students we do not have money to spend anywhere in any town that we go to school in. I'd also like to point out that not all of us were at that party and for those of us who were...that doesnt show that we have any different judgement than any other college students at any other college. I know that some of us who volunteer in the community, who give you your flu shots, and who volunteer our time making food baskets for the community were at that party. They are hard working students having fun on a Friday night. Every school has students partying on a Friday night. The school has been here longer than you have, so if you have a problem with the school then you shouldnt have moved here in the first place. Also, 105 people do not make up the whole school...so stop judging all of us. All of the 105 people at the party were not Colby-Sawyer students...where did the others come from...maybe the New London community?
So in conclusion stop judging all of us as a whole. Stop being ignorant...if you walked on our campus youd know that it is made up of smart, caring, respectful individuals...that do in fact contribute to your community. Learn about us before you make a judgement!
Thanks,
Erica
- Erica, Colby-Sawyer Student

Rich from Manchester,
One, not everyone that was there was drinking. And TWO Not everyone was at the party. There are many other students that do not drink and respect the laws. So you should not be judging every student by what other students do. Also what about the students that live in a dry dorm. What about them?????????
- CSC Student, New London

Jim Wilson- They own the house. No one is old enough to distrurb our town and everyone who lives near that house. Its not about the drinking age its a about a constant problem in this town . We pay our taxes and don't disturb other people. We are not going to put up with this crap anymore. The taxpayers of New London are going to run these hooligans out of town.
- David, New London




Run out of town? That sounds real logical. Clearly you got were the guy who stayed in on Saturday, played board games, and never felt a girls boob. Therefore you get a hard on instead by demoralizing college students. I am sure you have the ability and all to "run the college out of town." You sound like Barrack Obama promising the world but instead not doing a damn thing and never will. If it wasn't for that little college your town would consist of a store that sells vases and a lemonade stand. I'm tired of hearing you complain. Become a real man and do something about it like move.
- Bonin Struck, Pillsbury Lane

Abigail from snootty nosed Winchester showed your arrogance . You call the locals hicks, hayseeds and other insults. It really makes you all look like low class punks. The town doesn't need the tiny amount of money they spend. They are all broke and don't have two cents to rub togather. The students also do not pay property taxes. We do. That is what runs the town.
- Osgood, New London

I am not affiliated in any way with Colby Sawyer college or New London. But I just need to say that I find the comments of some of the townspeople self-righteous, ignorant, intolerant, sarcastic, holier-than-thou, and hateful. Why are you so insecure that you need to belittle, disparage, call names, and otherwise show the world how pathetic you are? How can you call yourselves Christian? Why do you have it in for young people? I don't disagree that the kids broke the law. I do think the arrests went overboard and should have involved the college administrators from the get-go. But even worse than the college kids' actions are your hate-filled, paranoid, and false accusations and slander.
- I'm a Grownup, Vermont

As a Senior at Colby-Sawyer I am aggrivated with all of the comments against our school. I love this town and this community and now that has been tarnished thanks to a great deal of the people that live in New London. I was not part of the events that occured, but I know a lot of people that were. Just by reading how you feel about ALL of us makes me think you are fairly close minded. What have I ever done to you?? I drive slowly, I shop at the stores in town when I need something, I don't litter, I don't vandalize, I say hello to anyone I see in passing, I hold the door at colonial pharmacy when someone else is coming... That sounds like an upstanding citizen to me!! Obviously all you need is a large group of students to make up your whole mind about all of us. Unfortunately, you are the ones losing out here. All of the students that used to take part in community activities and visit the local stores will probably being going out of our way to avoid any encounters with some of you. I feel unwelcome in this town, and thats really too bad for a place that I used to love.
I do feel that everyone is entitled to their opinion, but some of you are out of line and out of touch. You should probably get all of the facts (not only from the media) before you start judging.
- Student, New London

1. Do you pick up litter (the beer bottles, the cig packs? Nope! - Actually there are quite a few of us that would stop to pick up litter at my time at CSC. And now that I live in the area (Sunapee) I still stop and do it and see CSC Students doing it
2. Do you volunteer at the Hospital? Nope! Many of the nursing students do, and students also join New London Fire Dept which is a VOLUNTEER department so YES we do get involved.
3. Do you attend ANY churches regularily? Where service opportunities are galore. Nope! YES actually many students do go to church - which do you attend/time do you go? Maybe we aren't attending the same services as you so that could be why you aren't seeing us there. There's many religious students on campus of all different faiths.
4. Do you volunteer in the local elementary schools? Nope! Yes we do - many of join the Buddies Program at CSC and work with local sports teams as well. And what about the Child Development and Early Childhood Education Majors? And the Secondary Education Majors? We get involved heavily within the local school systems.
5. Do you volunteer to give packages to needy families at Christmas? Nope! Actually CSC sponsors food drives, clothing drives, and the drop and swap and donates many things to local families and shelters throughout the year. We also have a Community Service Club so don't say that we aren't active.

Do not trash our entire college for the mistake of some. For every 1 bad item that gets written up about there are at least 10 great things that Colby-Sawyer Students are doing that aren't getting press for and should be. But you won't hear us screaming for attention for it because we do it because WE WANT TO AND WE LOVE NEW LONDON! Why do you think so many of us come back here after graduation? New London is our home on the hill!
- CSCAlum, Sunapee NH

Call me crazy but, if I were the dean to this college and found out that 91 of my students were involved in this party, every single one of them would be expelled ASAP. In the words of wrestling legend Larry Zybysco " this kids are simply the young and the useless" . Send these spoiled brats home to mommy and daddy have them explain why the $30 or whatever thier tution they paid is wasted in oreder for thier kid to go party in stead of what they are there for to begin with , learn.
- Bob, Manhcester

I feel like I am a little late the game but I will join in the fun times anyways. It is absolutely clear the difference between the people who went to Colby-Sawyer and those who are bitter and live in the community. I find myself laughing at the more ridiculous posters such as Sue and Dave because clearly you are living in an alternate dimension.

To say that the Colby-Sawyer students don't spend money in the community is laughable. Where do you think we get our food, beer, and other supplies from? Where do we fill up our cars before going to work or back home for a weekend? Where do our parent's take us out to dinner when they come to visit? My assumption is that the store that Sue runs doesn't cater to the normal needs of a college student and therefore paints her a picture of the students not spending money.

And before you start to make the open statements that the students don't give back. Why don't you ask the market research classes that go into the community to help businesses deal with this economic climate? Why don't you ask the nursing students who volunteer their time at the local nursing/assisted living homes and the New London Hospital?

Also, to say that there was irresponsible alcohol abuse going is a bit over the top. Sue, you do realize that for some, if not most people, it only takes about 1 beer to reach a BAC of .02. There was not a single report by the police or the Union Leader that said that students were taken to the hospital for alcohol poisoning. Another item to consider is that this "behavior" that was the cause of the incident was yelling and screaming. There was no vandalism, no fighting and no public indecency so what's the big deal.

This is an unfortunate situation that I am sure the students feel bad about but to say that we are nothing to the community is boarder line irresponsible in my book. And I received a call from Colby-Sawyer tonight asking for a pledge. I might not have done anything but based on people like Sue and Dave, you can bet that I am going to donate back to the college that gave me my degree and I encourage everyone to give what they can.
- Andrew P., Manchester

Secondly, I offer you this to ponder while you're busy cow-tipping and shaking your bails of hay. Is there anything else that happens up there that could possibly be as entertaining to you folks? Are you aware of the issues that happen in real life, in the real world, in society everyday, that make this look like a piece of cake and a walk in the park? If you say you see people passed out outside in the morning while you walk your dog, isn't it common knowledge to notify local authorities? Calling the cops is something you've all proven good at... so why stop at possibly saving a life? Seeing someone passed out outside in the early morning is something anyone with common sense would know to do something about.

It's an insult to people everywhere by saying these students are not part of your community and that they are visitors. Here is a simple fact for you to swallow. This college is the only thing that keeps this town's wheels rolling. Without this college New London would be nothing but a map-dot of a town. I find it quite humerus you swear by never benefiting from this college's amenities. Hilarious. Perhaps Colby-Sawyer should consider closing off all of these utilities to the New London Community, since you find them to be irrelevant.

Bottom line is, you all need to get off your high horses. Take your superman capes off. You are not heroes. You will not prevail in preventing college aged adults from consuming alcoholic beverages. Yes, these students were wrong. Yes, a penalty should be given. But, arresting 101 students, making this a regional news headline, and causing such a commotion over something that is very common is absolutely ludicrous.
- Abigaile, Winchester, Ma

I must begin this by blatantly laughing at all you hay-shakers who think this is a story that belongs under the "crime" tab in your local online newspaper. Really? Crime, huh? Where I come from, crime is not categorized as college kids drinking at a party. High school kids drinking at a party would not make my local newspaper. I feel embarrassed for you hicks for many reasons.

Firstly, you seem like complete arrogant, pompous, hypocrites. Yes, I know, the truth hurts doesn't it? Let me ask you this one question- were you people born before the 1800s and simply reside in New London because you never thought a college was at the heart of the town? Didn't think so. Here's the bitter truth; adults in college engage in a behavior called underage drinking. It happens everywhere across the country, even in that po-dunk town you people so quickly call your "hometown." You seem to be hypocrites in many ways. You seem to call these students stupid, and uneducated. That's a bit ironic considering your ignorant comments only prove yourselves to be the unintelligent ones. Adding that to the fact that you moved to a college town and thought the world would be all daisy's and bubble gum makes you in fact, the ones lacking any sort of common intelligence. You say you don't enjoy the stereotypes which people give residents of NH as being "simple", yet it seems you are only emphasizing that with your closed minds. I'm doubting you people even went to a college or university considering you find this story about drinking so appalling.
- Abigaile Churchton, Winchester, Ma

The Colby-Sawyer chapter of SABB [Students Against Bad Behavior] is meeting with the New London officials to resolve this matter. SABB does not support the negative reaction to the Town and the police . We invite all involved to be there so that the students and citizens can reach a happy medium. SABB'S weekly meeting will take place as usual.
- Tiffany, New London

I don't understand why people think we are disturbing the peace so much? Our school is not incorporated within the New London community what so ever, meaning we have a seperate campus from your precious little town. However, this does not mean we are not contributing to the community at all. My fellow students have made it pretty clear just how much of a contribution we make to the community, so get over yourself and realize that without a college here this little town would not survive. As for all the complaints about beer bottles, well I'm proud of those who have thrown them onto your lawns after hearing what you have to say about us. Never in my life have I heard such stupidity and ignorance from people within a community. I'd like to see you try and run us out of town Dan, Sue, David or any of your other rude residents, half of us would probably leave glady what with you people living within this awful town. Either that or we'd just throw some more bottles and underage drinking parties considering we're college students. Oh and the fact that you're insulting people half your age for partaking in activities that everyone else our age partake in honestly makes me laugh. Good for you NL residents, I hope this makes your life more interesting, god knows you need a little spice in your life.
- Getoverit, New London, NH

105 Idiots shocked and Appalled in New London

After 105 people were arrested in New London at an underage drinking soiree on Friday night, I decided to give it a day to check out reactions. I’d like to say I was shocked by the student reactions, but sadly, I’m not. Kids have developed a sense of entitlement that their parents fostered and part of the result is that they have no respect for the law.

The majority of the kids, most of them students of Colby-Sawyer College, who were either personally or peripherally involved in the incident, were throwing temper tantrums. There were two primary issues, the first being that they don’t like Sgt. Edward Andersen’s attitude or methods. If they’re so upset about the way this man behaves, it would be more appropriate and effective to take the problem up with his superiors in a calm and logical manner. If the Chief of Police doesn’t give you the response you want, take it up with the Chief’s superior officer. Everyone has a boss. When you’re at home with your mommy and daddy, a tantrum might go a long way towards getting you out of whatever you got yourself into but it doesn’t carry a thimble’s worth of water in the adult world. Bottom line, if you want to be treated like an adult, act like an adult.

Further, if these kids feel this guy is “out to get them” (as many of their comments online indicate), it’s pretty stupid to have a large, illegal, underage drinking party within earshot.
They may as well have sat in his lap, cracked a cold one, and chugged it under his nose. It’s hard to feel bad for people who display all the common sense of a mango.

The second primary issue is that most of the kids also don’t believe that even though they broke the law, they should have been forced to face legal consequences. The law is the law. If you don’t like it, grow up and change it. Saying you’re above the law just because others are doing the same thing is just plain lazy. People argued that if you can fight and die for your country at 18, you should be able to drink at the same age. I agree that these things should happen at the same age. Nobody should be allowed to join the military until they’re 21. Regardless of what I think, the law’s the law. I promise you, if you get to be of an age and position where you’re standing before your state legislature trying to change that law, and you put forth your argument the same way you post it on a website, you’ll be removed from the building before you finish your third sentence.

Another lazy argument put forth was the one that stated everyone in college drinks and people should just get over it. This is why parents throughout the ages have said things like, “Just because Billy jumped off the Golden Gate Bridge doesn’t mean you can.”, or “I suppose if Jill set off a firecracker in her left ear, you’d want to put one in both ears.” When you’re little, you might get annoyed when your parents tell you not to stick your finger in a light switch, but when you’re older, you understand why. Do any of the kids here wonder why their parents went through college drinking parties, grew up, and didn’t change the law? Could it be because they saw what happened and they care enough to say they don’t want bad things to happen to their kids? Of course not, that would be ludicrous, right?

One individual pointed out that the kids wanted police to be around when they were robbed or beaten, but not when it was inconvenient for them. A not so surprising response to that comment was that the cops hadn’t been around when the kid had been pick-pocketed. Could that be due to the fact that the cops were too busy having their time tied up running around dealing with scofflaw kids?

College is a great time to screw up and learn lessons. You have a ton of time, hopefully, to correct screw ups as you find your way through life. Taking responsibility for your actions and accepting the consequences are a sure fire way to earn respect from others as you walk your path and make your mistakes. Who knows…you might even gain a little self respect in the process.
- Lily Robertson, NH

To say the CSC does not provide economic aid or my favorite, "And the college provides no intellectual assets to the community" from Sue "the self-proclaimed Chamber of Commerce member) shows some people are living in a fantasy world. Without CSC, no one would know New London ever existed. And most importantly, an example of intellectual assest: student-teachers and Windy Hill. The community of New London and their children have been greatly impacted positively by this contribution by students. Never underestimate the contribution of a student teacher in the classroom. Go ask other school districts who would love to have the resources of multiple student teachers every year. Its too bad some poeple are so misinformed or uneducated
- JT, Student, New London

Caring, polite, responsible group of students? Pleeaaaase! list just 5 community services you provide to this town?

1. Do you pick up litter (the beer bottles, the cig packs? Nope!
2. Do you volunteer at the Hospital? Nope!
3. Do you attend ANY churches regularily? Where service opportunities are galore. Nope!
4. Do you volunteer in the local elementary schools? Nope!
5. Do you volunteer to give packages to needy families at Christmas? Nope!

The students can call citizens Dan and Sue ignorant, but the bottomline is: YOU are selfish bunch of young people and the college does NOT encourage volunteering nor having students give back.

Your response in name calling to people in this lovely town who simply put a mirror to your face....just demonstrates your immaturity.

I'll just drive by the CSC campus in my luxury SUV and say a prayer for you because most of you are looking at your future in the bottle of a beer can. I would call that ignorant and backward fellows. Signing out for good now...don't get your blood pressure up little buddies...(and yes, I'll call the police the second I see one of you drinking in my lovely town)....KUDOS to the New London Police!
- Sue, New London

As a proud graduate of CSC, I find some of the townspeople's comments on here appalling. CSC gives back to the community in many different ways, we spend money in town, CSC puts on functions for the town, and are you forgetting about the students that join New London Fire Dept?

It seems that you are looking for any reason to look down upon the College and the students; however if you took a chance on us, you would truly enjoy what you find!
- CSCAlum, Sunapee NH

Hey David I think you should probably reconsider where you're living. New London is a college town and without the college and its students the town would be nothing. The town can keep trying to scare the students but in real life we all know those who get in trouble find ways to do the same things but better... think about it David we're going to continue to live our lives and you're going to continue to be sour about your life because you made the decision to live in a town you're not compatible with.
- 2011, Colby-Sawyer College

if you don't agree with what goes on at every college campus in the country than MOVE TO WHERE THERE ISN'T ONE.
- Kelsey, NH

Wow, just reading through these comments.... there are some New London folks that truly loath the college and it's students, and some students (past and present) that truly think they make the world go around in New London.

As always, the truth is in the gray area between the 2 extremes. The Town and the College are symbiotic, and while neither would collapse on their own, together they make a stronger "whole."

Any way you look at it, this is a real black-eye for the College and the Town and will stick with both long after these students graduate.

Parties like this are nothing new--this big, this loud, this drunk... it's been going on for decades. If the Town was unaware, then they were willfully unaware.

Did the NLPD take action because College Security didn't? Did they take action because the College asked for help? What was the catalyst? What made this party, this night, worthy of a massive arrest?

I suspect there is a lot more to this story then "we" are hearing.
- David Morin '94, Windsor, VT

This is to Dan and Sue. I really do not understand how you can honestly say that Colby-Sawyer College is a taker and never gives anything back. Do you live in New London or are you from some far away place, because I know that when I go to the gym, half of the people in there are people from the town. Also, I have been to many activities that have been offered on campus, and who do I see there.. people from the community. Colby-Sawyer offers itself to the town of New London and surrounding towns. Maybe you live under a rock, because I honestly think you must have to to not to notice that. In addition, during Family Weekend in October, the college INVITES PEOPLE FROM THE COMMUNITY to set up and sell whatever it is they make. I have seen people selling painted glass, home-made jewelry, sweatshirts, etc., which is all stuff I assure you college students are not making. Also, this year, Colby-Sawyer offered a flu clinic. Not only was this for students, staff and faculty, but it was also for the community. I worked at one of those this year, and many people came from New London and surrounding towns. And for you, Sue, to say that you never see students spending money in the community really frustrates me. I go to Peter Christians all the time. Every time I walk into Pizza Chef, I see tons of students eating there. I buy stuff at Colonial Store and Hannafords. You must get out from under your rock in the real early hours in the morning when everyone is still asleep to not to see college students out in the community. Maybe you both, Dan and Sue, should open your eyes and stop judging the college and seeing us as "takers" because that is definitely something that Colby-Sawyer is not.
- Erika, New London

"Many, many of us in New London would give up the sub-standard - if you don't know what that big word means you can look it up in the dictionary - many of us would gladly give up the sub-standard fast food places - Subway and Dunkin Donuts to NOT have CSC in our town."

Dan -
Please don't insult the intelligence of college students, many of whom are as smart as you clearly feel you are. We are in college for a reason. It is completely untrue that the people of New London would give up Subway, Dunkin' Donuts, and Hannaford's and get rid of CSC. Do you know why, Dan? Because Colby-Sawyer College houses and educates about 1,500 students in a town of less than 5000.

"You mention arts at the college - huh? And no one attends the sports events at the college .....why bother?"

Clearly you are not a fan of some of the outstanding art events the college hosts, or the sport events. However, remember that the children of New London go to preschool on our campus. The citizens use our gym, our computer labs and library, all of which are incredible facilities. We as students do not give the people of New London mean sneers when they come to our campus and use our resources, yet because college students were consuming alcohol, the people of New London feel is appropriate to do so to us? Perhaps the proper solution would be for the students to start being genuinely rude, chasing "Hooligans" off of our campus as people suggest should be done to us.

"Grow up, shut up, and buck up sonny boy, the real world is awaiting you! Are u ready?"

It seems you are the one who needs to grow up, Dan. The real world is clearly screaming your name - College students drink. There are parties at CSC all the time, and now that the NLPD with a force of five strong busts one, you and and everyone else has an opinion and feels it necessary to crucify the students who are helping a small NH town flourish. You live in a college town, presumably one you moved to KNOWING it is a college town. I try to say this while being as polite as possible - You are truely an ignorant moron. Colby-Sawyer does more for you and the New London community than people choose to acknowledge, and all the while we are a polite, caring, and responsible student body.
- CSC Student, New London, NH

I just find it interesting that the same people that are pulling out statistics about more than 3/4 of the school being on some sort of aid are siding with the ones who are calling us "spoiled."

Personally I'd like to thank all of those who have contributed and stood behind students like myself and not generalized us as "hooligans." I know, I know. Damn kids with their loud music and alcohol. As someone mentioned before, I hope that one day down the road as you naysayers come into a situation were a Colby-Sawyer student or former one is in a situation to help you in some way and you will remember the words you have said on this comment board.
- Super Senior, Colby-Sawyer

I would like to begin by saying I can understand the concerns many have voiced about the students drinking and driving. This would certainly endanger both the students who had been at the party and anyone on the road that night.

However, give some voice to the CSC students and quell the media who feels it necessary to insult the intelligence of CSC students by stating that they were having a raging party 200 yards from the police station. Let's paint the whole picture, shall we? The party may have been a stone-throw away from the police station, but it was even closer to campus. The house is directly across the street from campus, in fact.

There have been numerous parties at this house for years, and the NLPD are now put in the spotlight for arresting more than 100 college students, who can legally vote, go to war, and pay taxes like the "outraged" citizens of New London.

It's time to bring some statistics and facts into play. Colby-Sawyer was founded in 1837, long before any of the current New London citizens lived there. Knowing that New London is a college town, people still choose to live here.

The town of New London has a population of roughly 4,500 people. Colby-Sawyer has roughly 1,500 students. We are not "Guests" or "Visitors," nor should we be made to feel as if we are, New London is our home for 4 years of our lives. We contribute to the community. The children of New London attend preschool on our campus, many come to use our gym, watch our games, walk around our school. Photos of CSC are posted all over as highlights of New London.

To all who say enough is enough, and that the college hooligans should be driven out of town, good luck. New London revolves around Colby-Sawyer. Lose the college and watch the community drown.
- Anon, Colby-Sawyer College

I am an alumni of CSC. I had a great time at the school honing my skills to be a success in the business world. Like most kids I got a lot of drinking done while at school. one big difference. I was smart enough (along with my friends) not to get caught.
It is the circle of life. I hope the lesson was learned by the students. The Police were just doing their job.
You can have a great time, go completely crazy in fact, and not wind up at the Police Station.
The bottom line is to use the brain that got you admitted to college in the first place and these situations can be avoided.
Nice to know people still have fun at colleges these days even with everything being so PC.
- Kevin Slattery, Hartford, CT

CSC College students calling New London residents and police ignorant, because they are upholding the law and they want the town they live in to be wholesome? So students you really believe, you can do what you want, to whom you want, when you want and where you want? Really? A bit spoiled I'd says. And the police and the residents of the town who buy homes, pay taxes, pay the water bills for the college should look the other way because "hey, that's college". My God are you narcissistic! Get a flipping grip on yourselves!
- David, New London

I am a member of the Chamber of Comerce here in New London (a business owner) and I neither a shut-in nor ignorant, however I know statistics - a recent study has shown that less than 10% of all purchases in New London come from the college. So Chris for you, let me make that more clear: that's a litte more than 9% and a little less than 11%.... Also, remember CSC is a charity school, per the faculty, 91% of students get financial aid because their parents cannot afford the high tuitition. The students have little income to spend in town.

Again, some say: CSC is a pimple on the behind of New London.
- Sue, New London,NH

Everybody understands that a fair number of college students party and consume alcohol. College is a place where you can learn, not only academically and in the classroom, but socially and about who you are as a person.

I have to say, it certainly doesn't harm the NLPD's reputation when their "Bust" is all over the news, television, etc. However, I would like to point out that this is the only time I've ever even heard about the New London police taking anyone into custody at a party.

It's also worth pointing out that the news articles ridicule the intelligence of CSC students, saying the party was 200 yards from the police station. It isn't worth saying that the house is less than 200 yards, moreover directly across the street, from campus, elminating the possibility people will be drinking and driving. There have been numerous parties at said house for years, yet police often do not break them up, even though it is just 200 yards from the police station.

The house is owned and operated by the school. I think that is who should handle this issue, the school, not the NLPD, who arrested everybody present, drinking or not, and then felt it necessary to call the parents of the sober students to inform them their child was sober at a college "Beer-Party."

It is commendable that the more than 100 CSC students did not simply laugh and leave. This is a ridiculous effort to put the NLPD in the spotlight.
- Matt, New London

Dear Dan and any other disgruntled New Londoners,
I stand by my friend "Super Senior" and what he has to say about CSC students doing their fair share of spending in the town. I also stand by the fact that CSC is a wonderful institution that has plenty to offer to both the students who attend and the surrounding community. Just last week I visited the Hair Station, Colonial Pharmacy, Clark's Hardware, Dunkin Donuts, The Flying Goose, and Pizza Chef. Besides Dunkin Donuts (seeing as I only got a coffee) I spent a decent amount of money on groceries, a haircut, toiletries, pet supplies, and dinner. In the past, I have purchased items at smaller stores such as the Lemon Twist and CB Coburn. I support all of the local businesses in some way, whether it be purchasing something or recommending it to a friend or family member. Clearly, without the college and students such as me, the income that the business owners of New London receive would be very different.

Dan, do you ever use any of the college’s facilities? Maybe Hogan? Probably not since clearly you are not a fan of the college, but I am a lifeguard at the pool on campus. I know many other people make good use of Hogan, and enjoy their time there. You say we “take, take, and take,” however I give my time to protect the lives of others who choose to use the pool. Maybe I am just the exception, but I highly doubt that. Also, I am involved with Colby-Sawyer athletics. You really think no one attends our sporting events? I know of a number of New London residents who bring their families to watch a game or two. Yeah, we might not always be the more dominating team; however, it is still entertaining to watch. Also, Colby-Sawyer does a fine job at offering different types of events for both the students and community members to attend. For example, Chuck Gibson of Hanover, NH is showing his “20 Projects” which highlights his talent in environmental graphic design until January 15. On December 8, a jazz cellist will be performing and the event is FREE to the public. Our annual holiday concert is coming up soon, and I am willing to bet there will be a pretty good turnout of New Londonders. I’m sorry Dan if these types of events don’t seem appealing to you, but I know that many townspeople do seem interested in what we have to offer.

Yes, Friday night was a mistake. Maybe people we’re careless, and maybe they were loud, but it was a Friday night. It wasn’t midweek. It wasn’t during exam week. It was a typical Friday night. I am willing to bet that you can step foot on just about (give or take a few) any college in the US, and you’d find the same thing. Heck, you’d probably find worse.

Dan, I don’t mean to offend you, but how old are you? Unless you were born prior to 1837 when the college was founded, you were aware of the presence of a college in New London, New Hampshire. Like what has been said, stop complaining. If it’s really bothering you that much, express your views somewhere that can promote change, not as a comment to a news article…
- Senior at CSC, New London, NH

I am an alum an certainly did my share of partying at CSC. I won't condemn either group.

Seems to me this is a result of no dialog between the town/police and the college. From the dialog, you can tell there is ill will and jealousy between the two groups.

The fact that this party was 100+ people screams to me that this is a known party spot - by the police and the students alike. Seems to me this situation was totally avoidable, but now both sides are entrenched in their sides.

We all know that kids make some bad choices sometimes. I always felt like I got a fair shake with the colleges' disciplinary process. The school is a good teacher, but I feel it dropped the ball here by not having a mechanism in place for seeing this type of situation does not happen with its students. Define what is to be expected.

The police are to enforce the law, it is their job. Had something bad happened, the community would question why the police were negligent. The police should have brought administrators in to be on hand for this before taking action. To serve and protect could have played a bigger role, I believe.
- Jack Tremblay, Burlington, VT

This has gone far enough. To all the residents of New London, get over this. We are college students, not saints. The fact that all of you are so surprised that we partied is absolutely ludicrous. What did you think happened on Friday nights on a college campus? For all of you that think we are stupid for partying 200 ft from the police station, look around, everywhere you go in New London is 20 ft. from the police station. So that puts that one to rest, thank you very much. As for those of you that have little faith in our "leadership" for the future, get over that too. Every single college campus in the United States has students that party every weekend, including the prestigous and perfect Dartmouth or any other Ivy league. Hey, we're all the future whether you like it or not. And I am certain that having a beer with friends on a Friday night (yes a beer, considering most of you that read these articles can understand that more than half of the students they took into custody were sober) is not going to ruin the future. If you think that then your future deserves to be ruined. So how about we all "grow up," "shut up" and "buck up," (Dan "the man") and get over this. These events happens every weekend all over the US. Just because you live in a town of senior citizens and grumpy 40 somethings does not mean Colby-Sawyer College is going to stop living life for you. MOVE AWAY if you have such a problem with CSC. We'd be a lot better off without your ignorance anyway.
- Getoverit, New London, NH

If the townspeople of New London are so outraged by the actions of our fellow students on Friday night than we would certainly like to hear much more. Instead of the rude stares and blatant disrespect around town why don't you all band together and make a stand? The students here are well aware that you ancient folks do not want us in your town. Well, the answer is too bad and deal with it. We pay $42,000 a year to attend this institution and let us have a good time. I agree that the party did get out of control but please, this is college and the house is literally feet from campus. Give me a break. If you don't want us within your town, then do not let the college buy the houses and do not let the students rent within your town. If it was not for Colby-Sawyer, things would vertainly be different for New London and that is a fact. They teach us business concepts here as well and we all know that without us, you would lose revenue and income. For now, you will have to continue to live amongst the youth or "morons" as many of you have mentioned. May I suggest moving to Florida if you are so upset. I heard the weather is beautiful down there and generally it is where crusty old people go.
- Anonymous, New London

Dear Sue,
I mean did you really honestly say that csc students dont go into the town and spend money????? you must be either a shut-in or a very ignorant person....i guarantee you that over half of hannafords income is spent on us buying booze...and lets not even mention the amount of money that the goose and pcs take in because of us...college kids drink all over the nation its the culture it will ALWAYS be that way there is nothing cops or anybody can do to change it
- chris, New London

It is pretty ridiculous that cops would waste their time and arrest that many people. I can see if the party was loud that they would come and tell everyone to leave. I have been to a party there and they have done that before. If they saw a few people who were acting out of control then they should arrest them. New London PD was arresting everyone, which is completely ridiculous. New London PD has nothing better to do, because the average age of people in the town is 80 years old. The college brings many positive things to the community. It is too bad that New London PD had to make such a big deal out of a minor issue. Any normal person who has ever been to college has been to a party. However, from reading all of your posts seems like none of you stiffs went to college or have ever had a good time. Grow up people of New London and New London PD let college kids have their fun.
- John, New London

I think this if this incident accomplished anything constructive, it is the dialogue that it sparked between the town, the sudents and the institution. For too long, people from all sides have maintained these ridiculous misconceptions: that all the students drink, that the college does not contribute to the community, that the police are 'out to get' the students. By bickering back and forth, taking personal stabs at eachother in the crossfire, we're passing up a good opportunity to clear up a history of miscommunication and mend the relationship between New London and the college.

As a town member, you might have had an encounter with a group of rowdy drunk students; they're out there. As a student, you might have had an encounter with a police officer who threatened and swore at you for walking back from an off-campus party; they're out there too. But as an alumna, I have encountered townspeople who have attended and enjoyed our poetry readings, music festivals, and plays; I have encountered students who have helped make ornaments for the local nursing homes or host teddy bear picnics for the Windy Hill preschool. There is good out there as well and we should acknowledge that.

Making such gross generalizations about the college or the police force will not solve anything. Let's fix only what's broken.
- K, Manchester

Dan and to all others in this argument,

I have attended Colby Sawyer, it was by far one of the neatest and most well kept colleges in the country. It is somewhat of a hidden gem if you ask me, small quaint town (I respect your town Dan its beautiful) great atmosphere to learn in, and other than the brisk cold in the winter there is nothing wrong with the school. Now Dan you like to rag on the kids here a lot, there is nothing wrong with what they are doing, I do not agree with underage drinking but I also do not agree with the fact that the drinking age is at 21. Yes its the law but you have to understand other countries, take Germany for instance, they have a drinking age of 16...16 DAN! How often do the kids there get drunk and make a scene almost never, because they don't have to sneak around and try to get away with drinking because it is legal there. Also Dan the college is a steady flow of income for the town, the kids there do spend their money at the Hannaford's and all the other local shops, I know I did. I bought all my food at the grocery store actually. So if you feel so much anger to this school which let me remind you has been there since the middle to late 1800's then you should rethink where you are living. I would like to see you understand that the kids that attend this college love their school, and respect the residents of the town, but its people like you that make it so much more difficult for students to enjoy their college experience. So I guess this was my rant and my calling for you to piss off and mind your own business because those Nursing students that are at Colby Sawyer, they are the same nurses that very well could be next to you trying to help save your life, just know we are the future, these students are your healthcare and future. Just remember that.
- Transfer Student, Dayton,OH

Well Dan I'm sure it must be easy to call someone little buddy through a computer screen, I'd love to see you come visit the campus but then again, I'm sure you feel much safer behind the desk in your office where no work gets done.

Don't think I know much about the town? My grandparents have lived in Hilltop Place for 10 years and spent the previous 30 in Wilmot. They find the stories funny because strangely enough, they also went to college.

You warn me to "shut up" and grow up" yet you are the one whining on and on about how Colby-Sawyer is ruining your life. Move. Cry about it at a town meeting. But for now, maybe you can try coming here and shutting us up yourselves because we're not going anywhere.
- Super Senior, Colby-Sawyer

As a CSC alum I am appalled not by the fact that there were kids drinking at a college party - that happens ALL over the US at every college everywhere.

How can we expect our kids to go to war at age 18 and kill someone but no no you can't have a beer.

For all of the New London locals was it so long ago that you forgot what college kids do. This is such a powerplay by some bored local cops. This type of activity is NOT new to colleges nor to Colby-Sawyer. Wake up New London police force - and by the way this isn't really going to change anything besides the perception of yourself.
- Brad Johnson, Hanover, NH

Dear Super Senior,
Many, many of us in New London would give up the sub-standard - if you don't know what that big word means you can look it up in the dictionary - many of us would gladly give up the sub-standard fast food places - Subway and Dunkin Donuts to NOT have CSC in our town.
You mention arts at the college - huh? Where? Oh yeah, I remember the time the beauty shop quartet came - the transvestites singers - now that was one for the record books wasn"t it? woo hoo . And no one attends the sports events at the college .....why bother?..........And little buddy, we had a grocery store - a very nice one, way, way before CSC was near 1000 students strong. Grow up, shut up, and buck up sonny boy, the real world is awaiting you! Are u ready?
- Dan, New London

As a student I am ashamed by the total disregard of the law. As students we have to obey the law like anyone else. There are many here who think we should get special treatment. There are constant beer parties all week and many students are hung over all day in class. The teachers arn't much better. Many are present at the parties. As far as Osgood seeing students passed out I also have seen many in doorways. The out of state students fel that the locals are just hicks who have to deal with it. Overall the situation is very sad.
- Allison, New London

Dan and Sue, you obviously haven't left your homes lately. Ask Hannaford how much money they make when college kids are buying beer and food there. This town would wither up and die in the winter if it wasn't for us fueling your economy buying your overpriced goods because we don't want to drive a half hour to the next civilization. Also, take a look around. Next time you're in the Flying Goose, see how many CSC students get good seats no matter who they are, because you won't find any. Don't blame the college because you moved to the boondocks to avoid contact with other people. Meanwhile, how many local places offer college student discounts, like every other college town in the United States of America. What, when you moved up here you didn't notice the campus driving down main street? It's because of College student's business that Hannaford, Dunkin Donuts and Subway could come in providing more jobs for kids in surrounding towns. Plus, it's hard to contribute money to your town when I'm too busy having to bail my friends out of jail at 40 bucks a person for going to a party four hours after it happened.

Go ahead and insult my intelligence or credibility, I get it all the time. But do think about those things the next time you decide to use Colby-Sawyer's gym or attend a sporting event or Art Show. But then again, those are for the people in town who actually want to support the next generation.
- Super Senior, Colby-Sawyer

they are having a party in this house because it allows them to be able to walk back to campus, avoiding any drinking and driving. It's college.. arresting the kids are just going to make them want to party more away from the police station which makes them drive to the destination
- b, new london

You say: the police should be going after real crime? Look at the national statistics: irresponsible alcohol abuse is not just RECREATIONAL, it is responsible for the destruction of families, careers, childhoods, friendships A doctor who graduated Harvard 30 years ago from medical school who was first in his class was asked "what causes the most sorrow and misery in the US" and his response: alcohol abuse as it has destroyed more lives, families, friendship and cause more death thru fights, drug driving, murder, than any other subtances. So guys, it's NOT jus the alcohol, it's the behavior associated with it. You CANNOT honestly believe the police could ignore a party of 105 people in a 1500 sq foot house in a residential area 200 yards from the police station? Talk about liablity!

And I agree with Dan, the college is a taker. You NEVER see college students eating out and spending their dollars in town. And the college provides no intellectual assets to the community. There are some in town who believe that Colby Sawyer is a zit on the behind of New London.

We can a least say they are now an embrassment!
- Sue, New London

Seriously why is everyone complaining that they got arrested? If you break the law then yes, you should be arrested! The cops are not "out to get the kids" I'm 18 and have never been pulled over, arrested, searched or anything. If they pull you over(Larry, Nashua) Then they obviously had a reason to pull over your son, hmm maybe SPEEDING? Which could get someone killed, or going over the line. When they pull someone over driving erratically then they have the right to search the car to keep the public safe. Doing so has saved many lives. Maybe even yours. Don't be mad at the police for doing their job. How would you like it if someone got mad at you for just doing your job? They're idiot for drinking 200 yards from the police! and they could have saved many lives that night for arresting those kids. Hopefully this will teach them a lesson and they will not drink under age again. The age limit is set to 21 for a reason. It protect your brain. Also no one should be drinking extensively. It could cause them to make very poor decision, but apparently they already do that. Grow up and act your age. Stop trying to be "rebellious" and take responsibility for your actions. You could really hurt someone when your drunk, not just yourself. So grow up and get over it. Thank-you to all of the police that finally arrested these kids!
- Amanda, Barnstead NH

They're idiots for having a party 200 yards from the police station.
- Unknown, Alton, NH

Wow Nick. Your hubris is astounding and laughable. We can't wait for you to go out into the real world and cook some books, dump some chemicals, or sell a lemon.

Elitism rather than ethics seems to be the rule at that school IMHO.

Oh and BTW, the local courthouse in New London that may have let you brats slide has been closed down. Prepare yourselves for some justice over in Newport with the common folk. Oopsie! ;D
- Biff, Canterbury

As an alumni I have to say the only truly stupid behavior was being brazen enough to drink in front of the police station. Littering in the town and leaving your messes...thats ridiculous and should be saved for parties on campus so you have to trip and fall over them as your stumble back to your rooms in the morning. I am bothered enough to reply here because of the statements about the college taking away from the town and not paying its full share?!?!? I can say that without our fantastic expendable income, the 9 months that New London is not filled with summer vacationers would be a complete disaster. We spend money at the quaint establishments in NL and the surrounding towns.
If you want to live in a college town...there are some realities that come along with it, if you are not pleased then develop an activity that would increase the positive behaviors you would like to see instead of complaining
- JK, Miami, FL

Also, to osgood....if you live in this town and we are upsetting you, please talk to the college or us. Involving authorities is not necessary, we are civilized humans, just a lot younger than you. I do not believe you have seen passed out students when you are walking your dog....it is New Hampshire, and it is cold. No one passes out outdoors, come on. And not all of us throw beer bottles in the streets, a lot of us even go out of our way to clean up trash like that. Enjoy your walks and mind your business, we know we are guests in this town.
- Nick, New London NH

I am a student at Colby-Sawyer and I was upset to hear that 1/10th of our population was brought down to the station. It is an all time low for cops everywhere in my opinion. Their job is to serve and protect, not incriminate and hassle with court appearances. This is college. Parties happen on weekends and cops should break them up if they get out of control or if someone gets hurt. Now, many of my friends have the burden of staying an extra day in New Hampshire instead of being home with their families, just because they have a court date. Unfortunately, if they were smoking pot it would have been worse because New Hampshire has not decriminalized it....yet.
- Nick, New London NH

I find that it is ridiculous to focus on drinking instead of terrible things such as abuse, cocaine, guns, and even murders (none of which happen in New London.) New London doesn't need a police force. Perhaps it would be best if there was one police officer for every 10,000 people in New Hampshire, considering nothing remotely life changing ever happens with their version of "crime." I think this is completely disappointing, that these officers feel the need to worry so many parents and citizens, when frankly drinking is not as bad as it is said to be. So what if you are 20, and your drinking? It will have just as much of an affect on you as a 21 year old drinking. Sometimes I wonder why the darn police has the nerve to crash parties when hmmm. maybe when they were a kid they did the same thing?! No one will every listen to the law, whether the kid is 14 or 20. Sorry police, maybe it is about time you find a better job; one that doesn't ruin the lives of others. You are supposed to HELP others. But obviously this is not apparent with the NLPD.
- Locals, New London

They should have been smoking weed they would have just gotten a ticket.
- The man, Mass

What a ridiculous waste of tax dollars.

Do these cops have nothing better to do? What's next? All units report in for a candy theft from the 7-11. Give me a break, it's college, and this happens every night. I'm sure not one of those cops ever drank underage. No, never...please.
- Mike, NH

All of you cop haters, idiots who don't like the drinking age laws and assorted malcontents should be able to figure out the real deal. The citizens of New London are going to take their town back. All parties involved got togather and want to end the drunkness and all nite parties that the college can't seem to control. Beer bottles rolling down the sidewalk and passed out students are not the type of thing we want to see in the morning when we are taking our dog for a walk. We live in New London not New Amsterdam.
- Osgood, New London

Way to go New London Police for upholdng the law! Cobly Sawyer is a taker from the town of New London, not paying their share of taxes, nor their share of water use. They take, take and take.

Citizens do NOT live this town to be overrun by drunk, irresponsible students. The college offers NOTHING, to our town to enrich it, no arts, provide no community service...this college it is 100% self serving with the exception of a single running race the college president sponsors. If Colby Sawyer College wants to engender good will, they should indeed punish these students, but they won't.....CSC doesn't seem to make the difficult choices.
- Dan, New London

What next for the New London Police to do ? Maybe give adults leaving Peter Christians a breatholator test for alcohol.The so called raid on a student party was done in a poor manner.Calling parents at 4 AM about thier child had to be a frightening experience for them. The students provide the town with a big part of the economy that provides for the poor choices of the police department
- J Denison, Palm Harbor Fl

Denis, Marc, Jeffrey, and Micheal, what difference does it make if I drank underage 30 years ago. (I did, age limit was 18). It was just as wrong then, as it is know. Two wrongs do not make it right. I may not agree with the age limit, but it's the law. Jim D, with attitudes like yours, maybe we can sell guns at liquor's stores or sell cigarette's in High schools thru vending machines. Laws need to be upheld by the police dept's, if you don't like them, try contacting any state rep. (good luck) and get it changed. One of the biggest problems with the drinking age at 18, was that 15 and 16 year olds were drinking.
- Craig McIntosh, Allenstown

If you don't like the LAWS, then change them.
- TJ, Bedford

Okay everyone that lives in New London and is angry that college students are drinking, you probably shouldn't live in this town. Obviously if there is a college, there is going to be parties and there is going to be drinking. NLPD has allowed parties at the yellow house every single weekend and hasn't busted one so them deciding one day to arrest every under age student in attendance is ludicris. Breaking up that location is now going to cause students to party at other locations off campus that are not as close to school, not within walking distance. This will cause WAY more problems as far as drinking and driving is concerned. Way to go cops, hope you fill your quota.

oh and waiting 3 hours to breathalyze let me bring my BAC down beloew .02. Thanks for the water :) idiots.
- student, new london

"These are young adults and they have to make their own choices. And sometimes their personal choices can be harmful to themselves and to others and they have to face the consequences for that."

They chose to drink. It happens. You can't stop it. Mind your own business.

So the consequences are what exactly? Pay the state money? Nice shakedown racket going on here. I feel much safer knowing these hooligans will have less money in their pockets that could be supporting local businesses.

I hope these adults protest their arrests by pleading not-guilty and refusing to pay the fines. If more people did that the police would have to stop being revenue agents and actually catch criminals.

Just because we don't like someone's behavior, there's no reason to try to extort money from them or throw them in a cage if they're not hurting anybody. If this had anything to do with safety, the police would have just broke up the party.
- Mike Tiner, Manchester

HAHA, Stupid students! Your parents should cut you off from any further help. I hope they never give you money or wash your clothes again. Grow up and learn something dummies!!!!!
- Rich, Manchester

You are all so ignorant! Once they find an underage drinker, the police HAVE to take them into custody. They used to just kick 'em loose and dump the booze but some kids got more booze and got killed. That equals a lawsuit in our magnificent society. Ask any cop, they'll tell you.

Don't lay this "they're old enough to vote then they're old enough to drink." BS on us either. I'd say that since about 90% of them voted for Obama that perhaps voting age needs to raised to 21 too!

Go to war - get a drink? Well, half way through my 2nd tour over in Korea they raised the drinking age from 18 to 21 because they found that 2ID was responsible for most of the alcohol related incidents on the peninsula and that within 2ID, most of the alcohol related incidents were soldiers under 21. Folks, it was 18 at one point. They obviously raised it for a reason.

Oh, and this no-big-deal, who cares about the law, let them get away with it attitude is EXACTLY what contributed to the creation of those 4 monsters that murdered in Mont Vernon.
- Biff, Canterbury

I'm surprised that word hasn't gotten out to all the kids that they are NOT obligated to submit to blood-alcohol tests. When the cops whip out the breathalyzers they should just say "No thank you."
- Curt Springer, Danville

The cops always want to harass the young kids. The other night my son was stopped by Nashua Police, frisked and the car was searched by the cops as they were "looking" for drugs...since he drives a 2 door sporty yet older model import and he was heading home at night. The cops were extremely pissed to find out that they had nothing to get him for and they had no choice but to let him go because not even as much as a burned out side marker light or inoperative defroster could be found. He keeps his car so impeccably clean that there was not even as much as a gum wrapper on the floor...even the trunk had only one small item in it and the ash tray was clean and shiny inside. Face it...the cops are out to get the kids nowadays...and they lie all the time.
- Larry, Nashua

Give me a break with God Bless the police. What planet do you live on? College kids have been drinking beer for ages and this ridiculous crackdow will run it's course Police please find the real criminals that are lurking out there!
- Jack, Amherst

Makes sense to me... They can fight in several of the wars we have going on but dont you dare let them let there hair down and have a drink.

Wow... Drinking college students... This is breaking news. Was there a fight? Was there a stabbing? Was there anything remotely newsworthy about this other then the groundbreaking obvious - by this article I learned that college students drink?
- John Smith, Manchester

Stupid is as stupid does...glad to hear no one was hurt, and hopefully this sent a message to others. Next time hold the party 200 yards from the fire station.
- Tim Lenihan, Enfield

President Obama can send them to be killed in the Middle East but they can't have a drink, in New London? It's time for a new Sheriff in town.
- William Smithers, Manchester

As a CSC alumni- I have to say I am disappointed in the direction the school has gone in. In its effort to compete with the larger schools, it has indefinitely sealed its own fate. In the mid 90's- with 600 students, it was ideal. Too bad- used to be a great place.
- SRT, Manchester

Wow. College kids drinking beer. What has the world come to.
- Henry Swanson, Goffstown

The police has nothing better to do in New London than ruin the lives of underage kids who were doing no harm. Yes, maybe it was not smart to drink next to the police station, but they were just having a good ol' time. The police needs to focus on better things..oh wait New London Polide has nothing else to focus on.. They were putting no ones life in danger and were not driving so what is the big deal?
- M.K., New London

Courtney Grey - If you don't like OUR town then leave. The college does not own New London .They have no right to allow their property to be used for a beer bash. Your attack on the police shows us that ignorance prevention is not taught at Colby Sawyer. As far as spending four hours waiting for your friends to make bail, nobody really cares. The fact is if the if the "dummies" used their heads this would never of happened. Stop blamming everyone else for your friends bad judgement.
- David, New London

Frankly I think it's ridiculous that anyone can honestly say that the students got what they deserved. The media has for some reason felt the need to make it seem as though students were partying stupidly close to the police station. Were any of you aware that the house is closer to the campus than it is to the station? It is so close in fact that it is considered on-campus housing. Yes underage drinking is wrong, so is lying, so is stealing and so are a lot of things- but they happen. I'm not saying that the students should get off scott free, but for the New London police, and other supporters of this action maybe you should take into consideration the reality of the situation. You had 100 college students drinking on campus. Not only that, but if the NLPD is going to call themselves good police that were merely concerned with safety- then why is that you let parties at that house slip by every weekend? The NLPD played into this by letting it go for so long. I'm also curious as to how the NLPD is now also miraculously able to distinguish the age difference between someone who is 20 and someone who is 21 by just taking a glance at them. How can you explain arresting those who were not drinking? Those with BAC of .000 had no reason to be cuffed and driven to the Police Station, as well as calling their parents at nearly 4 in the morning to ask if they can cross the street by themselves to return to school. The entire situation was poorly operated. And for the people who think that CSC students are dummies, then why are you living on the same street as a college. If you don't want to deal with college students.. then maybe your house investment wasn't the best idea. Yes DAVID I'm directing that at you. This college, and the college lifestyle didn't spring up on you. This is the way it is. I spent 4 hours waiting outside of the NLPD waiting to bail out friends that had been involved, 2 of which hadn't drank. I was not allowed inside the station and the police would not answer any of my questions. As a 20 year old student I have never had the pleasure of bailing someone out of jail, and I can just say I am more than disappointed by the lack of understanding or cooperation the police had for those innocently waiting outside. It was plain rude. So yes, I am a student of your future, and for those of have the nerve to suggest that I, as a Colby-Sawyer student, am your future are less intelligent or am a disgrace to the "future", consider the fact that currently my taxes are paying for yours. Or the fact that so many influential people in our past have made mistakes. Think about the rumors that have come out about those that have led this country, or started progressive movements. Consider that when you begin your rant about us students.
- Courtney Gray, New London, NH

The police are doing their job. The legal drinking age is 21. If the drinking age were lowered to 18, the cops will still be doing their job..arresting these kids for disturbing the peace or DUI. They're obviously not old enough to drink responsibly.
- ADM, Manchester, NH

God bless the New London Police Department for not looking the other way. Thank you for being brave enough to take the appropriate action. You may have saved a life.
- Slick, Grantham

I went to CSC and have a child there now. There has always been under age drinking, however in plain sight of the police station, outside, open bottles, not to mention the noise, is just plain stupid.
- m, manchester

Jim Wilson- They own the house. No one is old enough to distrurb our town and everyone who lives near that house. Its not about the drinking age its a about a constant problem in this town . We pay our taxes and don't disturb other people. We are not going to put up with this crap anymore. The taxpayers of New London are going to run these hooligans out of town.
- David, New London

I wonder how many of you underage drinking supporters would be saying "give the kids a break" if one of them left the party driving drunk and killed your mother. Bet you wouldn't be asking the police to "give the kids a break".
- Brian, Farmington

College is a learning experience. The students here did make a mistake, but look at every other college in the U.S that also has condoned underaged drinking parties. This is not the only school that this has happened to. (Read about Fairfield's arrests) Clearly CSC is not the only college that has underaged drinking. Keene State has had parties with well over 500 people in a backyard while cops stood by and watched underaged kids walk into it. Not to mention Plymouth State (Party State University) that has had major problems with drinking and drugs. Or UNH, who has had assaults due to drinking and drug use. This CSC party played no part in any damage to anyone or anything in the town. It was just college kids trying to enjoy a Friday night.


Because Colby Sawyer resides in a small, local town the students here are put under a microscope. It is unfair to judge this school for this one time, while other schools have been in the paper numerous times for larger and more heinous crimes.

There was no drinking and driving, it was a party across the street from the college. This is a lot safer than getting into a car intoxicated, and putting others in danger.

Also, the college as a whole should not be judged, because there are another 1100 students that DID NOT go to that party and DID NOT get arrested.
- ANONYMOUS, Colby Sawyer

Are you kidding me? College kids drink and party, part of the experience. Arresting 100 kids wont stop them, they'll just find a better spot. Good job NH PD...idiots.
- Citizen, Bedford

They had a huge underage drinking party 200 yards from the police station. Come on, how can anyone defend this action? These aren't the brightest kids in NH that's for sure. Thankfully no one was hurt, can you imagine the uproar if someone was hurt and the police didn't do this? They would be crucified.
- Bill, Andover

If the hostesses didn't advertise the party on their blogs perhaps it wouldn't have gotten so large.
- Steve, Franconia

I'm just wondering what the total income will be for the police and courts once they are done fining these young adults. The real story here is that money-strapped police departments are starting to criminalize a variety of situations that once were dealt with in smarter and more effective ways than how the police handled this. The school food fight arrests last week are another good example. This is about revenue-gathering, nothing else. I don't want to live in a for-profit police state and that's what NH is becoming.

Just an aside, a friend of mine has a son in Afghanistan on his second combat tour. He already has killed and almost died for his country many times yet we were not able to buy him a beer while he was home. This is pathetic.
- Dennis, Fremont

How does a small town police department arrest 100 people? Did they throw a huge net over them or something? Man, you'd have to be pretty drunk not to just run back to campus. The cops would be too busy to give chase.
- Dennis, Hooksett

The ability to arrest 100+ underage students suggests an excess capacity of the police department(s) New Hampshire is watching cities like Manchester and Concord become over ridden with criminal scumbags and get placarded with gang grafitti, yet the police are going after college students. Did they break the law? Sure, as do everyone of us who drives (yes we ALL speed). Officer discretion to allow the campus security with it would have saved tax payer money and allowed the students to be held accountable by the institution to which they are glued for 4 years. If this was just a case of making a bad coice as the college suggests, shouldn't it be a learning opportunity rather than a criminal stamp on their resume?
- Michael Layon, Derry

The NH courts interpreted possession as including "internal possession," meaning if you're underage and responsible enough to not drive, you can still get busted. The idea is that carrying beer down the street or at a party is the same as "carrying" it in your stomach. Very few states go this far, but NH is unfortunately one of them. It's not the police's fault, but New Hampshire's unfortunate laws, though I'd question the judgment of the police that thought this was a good use of resources just the same as I'd question the fool who threw a huge party next door from the station.
- Cameron Monagle, Montreal via Manchester, NH

If the kids were really responsible they wouldn't always be throwing their bottles, cans, and cartons up and down the street every day for the neighbors to pick up!
- Barbara, New London

Oh, the halo's abound because none of you ever did anything like this when you were a kid. Nope.

While you're at it, check the speedometer when you are driving, too. The absolute speed limit or just under. Absolutely. Every single time. Pure as the driven snow.
- Jim D, Hillsboro

Look at other countries where the legal drinking age mirrors college age.

No drinking problems there.
- Harry, Brown

Alright colby-sawyer! There were plenty of these parties when I went to school there but the police were never involved. A lot worse is going on at other campuses. Give the kids a break.
- julie, boston, MA

really? come on now, are the local police chiefs in a contest with each other? hey, i got 20, oh yeah, i got 100! yes, it's wrong, but how come i didn't hear of 100 people being arrested for smoking pot during the hippie protests? they got a pass. and while the police are busy booking 100 students, the chefs in the meth lab across town are laughing the their butts off!!
- fpc, bedford

Would have hated to be the booking officer that night!
- DK, Manchester

HA yea no kidding! Or the officers who had to watch the kids until mommy or daddy came to get them.
- Chris, Goffstown

if you host an under-age drinking party with 150 people 200 yards away from the police station, you deserve to get arrested, morons.
- John, Nashua

nick/erik. You two have a hard-time understanding what the law means. It does not matter what the ages are/were. they were breaking the law.
How do you know any of them were not going to drive after, i mean its not like they care about underage drinking. I' think if i was a cop i'll take my chances of picking them up.
- jd, raymond

Lower the drinking age to 18 and this problem goes away. If they're old enough to vote, and old enough to join the army, they're old enough to drink. There are college administrators in favor of the lower drinking age. These kids should organize politically and fight for the right to party.
- Charlie, Mason

I am unaware of any police officers randomly kicking down doors looking for kids to arrest for underage drinking, maybe I am wrong. It's the officers job to uphold the law and if they have suspicion a law is being broken they need to investigate. In all the parties I am reading about there is some type of disturbance, fight, excessive noise etc...that calls them there. I am yet to read a story about police officers arresting "responsible" underage drinkers.
It's the irresponsibility of the underage drinkers that get them arrested. Did they think a loud 100 person party was not going to attract any attention?? And did they think a police officer would overlook it? I am sure the last thing the cops wanted to do was fill out the paper work to arrest 100 kids.
- H.W., Phila, PA

This highlights the quality of police in New London. Bored, uneducated bullies. Don't ever drinve through New London unless you want to meet Boss Hogg.
- John, New London, NH

Erik....."not responsible enough to drink" you say. No, they weren't. Responsibility is NOT allowing 100 drunken students over for a party. ONE-HUNDRED for God's sake...in one house. Supplying booze to underage kids is breaking the law, don't YOU get it? i hope the college suspends or gives the boot to ALL involved.
- Bob A., Manchester, NH

Um, yeah, they are pretty famous for using that as a party house for over 10 years now. Now, if they could clear them out on County Rd (a popular road) where the drunkenly drive into signs and spray paint the signs, and...) Listen, I went to Plymouth State College, and I understand partying and drinking parties (it was still a top ten party school in my day,) and if these kids could actually stay at the house on Seaman's and be taken awau from the drinking parties they have in the town (next to children, old people, while creating serious problems with drunken driving on main roads) I'd be all for them drinking on Seaman's. Its within walking distance of the school The trashing and damage they've done on Barrett and County Roads is RIDICULOUS and in places where there is one house of college kids in nice family neighborhoods - not next to any college or other college aged people. I feel for them that they don't have "college town" like we have at Plymouth with a lot of off campus housing filled with college kids for a few blocks, but they need to stop trashing New London. Seamans is next to the Police Station but also right next to the college. Barrett and County road are away from the college, and they are becoming an annoyance to the people in the town. That they have no "college town" is a shame, but why not then attend a bigger college if you're going to college to party. ;) Andersen and Seastrand love busting kids (hey I remember you guys - not retiried yet, huh?) so I'm sort of surprised they haven't done anything to get the off campus parties aggravating the town - you know like on County where someone drew a male organ on a Stop Sign last year? Maybe getting the kids to drink closer to the college would be safer for the town.
- KC, New London

I can understand the police wanting to break up the party because of noise violations, but I think arresting all of those involved is a little over the top. What's next, are they going to raid parties on every college campus? Every college will have students underage-drinking. Considering the massive amounts of student loans they will be paying back in a few years, I think they deserve to have a little fun right now!
- Jenn, Nashua

Were there any state reps in the crowd? :-)
- Ryan, Hooksett

I have no sympathy for these kids. Having a raging party 200 yards from the station, they got what they deserve!
- Tom, Concord

Give me a break David. College is as much about learning how to live an adult lifestyle and interact with others as it is about text books. Guess what? Working adults go to bars after work and grab drinks with colleagues and friends. These students can't yet get into a bar (although they can get into a bunker in Iraq) so they have to improvise.

I see this as nothing more than a powertrip by local police of 'how dare these kids do this 200 yards from our police station) and an ENORMOUS waste of tax dollars that will likely result no charges that stick at all. You could tell by the Colby Sawyer responce that they think the PD was way out of line here as well. Calling in for backup from other departments???? Are you kidding?

My lord.... legal adults gathering with their peers on a non school night to socialize with each other and meet new people... call in the marines.
- Marc, Salem

Once again, the police seemingly have nothing better to do than harass its citizens. Please the drinking age, David of New London, is a random number. It used to be 18. They are in college for crying out loud. Old enough to live on their own and experience life, old enough to serve in Iraq or Afghanistan and die. We'll let them die for us, but won't let them drink. Please, enough is enough.
- Jeffrey Fournier, Chester, NH

David,

How does Colby-Sawyer need to get a handle on what is going on at the campus when the party is off campus??!?
- Jim Wilson, Manchester

I hope their parents are happy with the investment they made in thier kids education. Colby Sawyer needs to get a handle on whats going on on their campus. The dummies in the house think that they can do what ever they want without ant regard for anyone living in town. The PD did a great job.
- David, New London

The ages of the three people who held the party were 21, 21, and 20. Yet the police state they observed people who were obviously too young? Even if some of those young adults were 19, their age is not obvious. I think what is obvious is the mind set of these police. This story also said many people were guilty of internal poses ion of alcohol based on blood alcohol levels. If these young people were not driving, why were they given blood alcohol tests? And, were they told that they did not have to take these tests? What would happen if they refuses since they were not driving? When were they read their rights, before requesting this test? Never? Seems like a waste of police time to me, maybe even a basis for a few law suits.
- Nick A, Derry NH

Would have hated to be the booking officer that night!
- DK, Manchester